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TR8 Squadron plans for 2010

Postby TR 8squadron2 » 21 Mar 2010 11:12

<font face="Tahoma">Barry here from the TR8 Squadron, just thought i would update people that are interested in our plans for 2010.

This year we have 4 confirmed drivers for the Scottish classics sports and saloons championship + arrive and drive pilots in the spare TR8’s and & the 7 but we also have plans for Spa and Mallory Park

Dates are confirmed as follows:

Sunday 18th April
Sat & Sun 8th & 9th May (British GT Meeting)
<font color="red">Sat & Sun 5th & 6th June (Cadwell Park) unconfirmed </font id="red">
Sunday 27th June (Classic Speedfair)
<font color="blue">Sat & Sun 4th & 5th July (Spa Sumer Classic with CSCC)</font id="blue">
Sunday 25th July
Saturday 21st August
<font color="blue">Sunday 29th August (Mallory Park CSCC Future Classics)</font id="blue">
Sunday 19th September
Sunday 17th October

The Scottish championship is again televised for 2010 on Motors TV so i will post the dates and times as required and of course links to our in car footage.

The Scottish classic championship is starting to flourish with 60 registered competitors and the highlight of the year being the Scottish speed fair, really guys if you are in the north of England it’s well worth the trip for this event. Check out the classic home page for info on this championship http://www.smrc-uk.com/competitors/clas ... assics.php

Things may hopefully be a bit different this year, our cars are getting a bit quicker so we might be in a position to challenge for top step podiums at Knockhill and hopefully might be competitive on our out of Scotland excursions having said that we need to learn the tracks first.

We hope to generate some media attention this year for our spa trip but could do with some help from our fellow TR owners to try and raise our profile. Jon has started to develop a website but it’s all still in the early stages http://tr8race.blogspot.com/ as we get going it will be updated before and after the race meetings. But we need to make ourselves visible to try and get some support for the team.

As you may have noticed above race cars are available if you fancy testing your driving skills

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Postby PeterTR7V8 » 21 Mar 2010 20:12

All the best for the season Barry. I'd be there if I could. A summer in the North of U.K. can't be any worse than a winter in NZ can it? I can't believe you have spare cars needing drivers. I'd have my hand up faster than you can say "trouble at Speke".

I'll just have to sit & wait for the video footage.

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Postby Beans » 21 Mar 2010 20:59

Will put Spa in my calender, not that far away from where I live [:)]

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Postby john » 22 Mar 2010 10:15

Fantastic news

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Postby TR 8squadron2 » 12 Apr 2010 17:54

Gents

Post of the video from Motors TV, all cut with just the TR’s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrrE3Bf4dww

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtOaN57qjgQ

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Postby Beans » 12 Apr 2010 20:12

What little that can be seen of the clips looks great [8D]
shame the download from YouTube is pretty lousy at the moment [B)]

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Postby TR 8squadron2 » 13 Apr 2010 05:41

Beans

Did you have problems looking at the videos, are they complete?

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Postby Spectatohead » 13 Apr 2010 06:33

They played great for me. I especially liked at 5:50 on the first one as Toye blasts by. Also the 8's make Elans look tinier than they are when following closely. Thanks.

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Postby PeterTR7V8 » 20 May 2010 05:58

Some more entertaining video from the TR8 Squadron. Damn that Porsche!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7XtOCTPOug
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKK52DcVoLU great case of Tourette's Syndrome from Willy at the 8 minute mark. [:)]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m86j-RN7RiU DNF!

Interesting slow mo clip of TR8 ballet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvnzAmj3J10

It does look like Knockhill is an ideal track for our cars. Not enough straights! [:)]

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Postby Beans » 20 May 2010 19:10

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by TR 8squadron2</i>

... Did you have problems looking at the videos, are they complete ...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
One way or another they download very slowly oon my computer,
so when watching them online the video stops frequently.
But with some patience they can be viewed [;)]

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Postby TR 8squadron2 » 22 May 2010 13:59

Afternoon Gents

Just a quick update

It’s been disaster for me, at the first race i only managed two DNF’s however everything should have been sorted with large sums of money for a new carburetion system and yella terra rocker assembly.

However it’s not all bad news for the squadron. Gordon managed a second at the first meeting but it was revoked due to a lap timing / counting error to a third but still a very good result. Unfortunately no video is available

At the second race of the year Willie Toye managed a 2nd in race 1 and a 3rd in race 2. The in car videos are available here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKK52DcVoLU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7XtOCTPOug

We should also congratulate Sonny Paterson the newest member of the squadron who finished as driver of the day. Not bad for his 2nd race meeting

The next event is the Scottish classic Speedfair on the 26th – 27th June, we have 5 cars racing but will have 8 or 9 cars at the track, the cars we will use for Spa the following weekend will be on display and not less than two cars will be available for hire.

Barry

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Postby TR 8squadron2 » 25 Aug 2010 09:14

Afternoon gentlemen, sorry to be so long in giving this update

All members of the squadron have been busy at work so the racing has taken a back seat for all of us. Not really what any of us need but without the green stamps we don’t get to race. I have been working in Azerbaijan, Willie is in Kazakhstan, Ross was in Italy and Gordon has been moving his garage

Old news first, in between all the work we have had a couple of races each resulting in 5 podiums between us. Willie a 2nd & 3rd, Gordon with two 3rd places and me with one 3rd and a driver of the day. Shonny also had a driver of the day award at one meeting.

I was disappointed that I only got one race at the Scottish Speedfair meeting due to an over enthusiastic marshal putting out a fire that did not exist. The car was stranded and my engine bay was full of fire extinguisher powder. I had qualified 3rd and was confident of a good result. When my car is on the 48’s at start-up flames shoot out of the trumpets for a second (un-burnt fuel) the marshal decided that it was a full blown fire and put it out. This meant 4 hours work to get rid of the powder and to add insult to injury I had to start last in race two.

Starting from the back of the pack is a lot of fun but can be dangerous, a Jaguar XJS hit me from behind and I almost had a few more big incidents due to the speed differences. I had pushed hard to get to third then ran out of brakes at the hairpin. I threw the car into the corner to rub off the speed but my ability as a driver came up short as I went into the gravel backwards. I rejoined in 4th and made a little progress on Willie Robertson in his fantastic Datsun 240 but then his gearbox expired making my life easy.

It’s my first race with the new car and although it’s very fast no brakes and a poor cam shaft choice + unbalanced carbs due to the supposed fire made it a handful to drive, the main problem is the cam. Power is not available till 5,000 rpm so I had to come down the extra gear in three places, the car could have gone thru the corners quicker but I had no power just a flat spot. I am sure if I had brakes (now fixed) and a milder cam I could go a couple of seconds a lap quicker

It becomes apparent that even on our best day the Morgan is just too quick, to be honest we are still not in the same time zone, having said that we just don’t have the seat time to test and get these TR’s working properly. I don’t think for one minute we can beat them but it would be good to close the gap and almost challenge them

I managed to tick one of my bucket list boxes a few weekends ago by competing at Spa. The team and when I say team I mean team was present. Mechanics an Auto Electrician + the photographer and helpers + 4 drivers “12â€￾ in total along with family support another 7 people. Before I continue with our story I must thank each one of them.

Mike – Thanks for all the effort and putting up with or demanding shit
Richard - Welcome back, you are missed at the Knockhill events
Titch – Thanks for your help at the track and garage
Steve – A new welcome addition to our team, the auto electrician
Ross – In this modern world it’s difficult to find an active teenager that can’t wait to get stuck in
Rex – Another new addition, thanks for the fantastic pictures
Rab - Thanks for all the help and support
Joe - Another new member (Robin’s Son) we will convert you to the dark side

We must also thank Lammy back at HQ and all the other people that helped make it all happen.

We ( Willie, Robin, Gordon and myself ) competed in two one hour races, the swinging sixties and the inter-series. Both races were organised by the CSCC club. All the drivers had a fantastic time thumping around the 7 km long track, I calculated that me and Gordon must have been hitting almost 150mph down the Kemmel straight showing 7,200 rpm on the rev counter.

The weather was fantastic for the 1st race with a record temperature of 37º, that was probably not good for the tyres but hay it all adds to the fun.

The second race was the opposite with torrential rain.

Both races were an absolute nightmare, the best I can say is that we made a total mess of it. In the 1st qualifying session Gordon set a fantastic time of 3.03 and third overall, that’s amazing for only 6 or 7 laps on the track and the high track temperature.

Only problem was the quick time gave us a one minute time penalty. Willie was a bit more cautious and qualified 12th which with Hindsight would have been a better place to start.

It went real well for Gordon on the first few laps, sitting in a comfortable third but disaster struck when he came in early for his penalty and then pitstop / driver change. The time window for pit stops and driver changes is between 20 and 40 minutes, he came in at 15 minutes to take the penalty but had to circulate for a few more laps.

Willie made a similar mistake, the pit board went out to give him is position and he misunderstood and came in on the next lap, again too soon for the 20 minute changeover.

This dropped us both out of contention for good finishes, but the events are about participating and the first time around its unrealistic in be the top 10 or first few in class.

On the driver change it went from bad to worse for me the un-rehearsed driver change and fuel stop was 3 minutes looking at the lap times, then the exhaust came off totally from the manifold on my second lap. It sounded fantastic but I must have lost 20% of my power and I had to change some lines as the exhaust was dragging on the floor this resulted in lap times around 3.20 then on the last few laps I got a slow rear puncture so I was lucky to get to the finishing line.

Willie and Robin had 3 driver changes ( Willie driving two stints ).

Race two was no better, we had miss communication about the race start time and my exhaust was sitting beside my car 50mins before the start of the race and 20 minutes before the position grouping, to cap it all off we had not fitted a windscreen de-mister that was sitting in a box. We were so pushed for time I was in my car helmet on and harness fastened with the car on jacks / axle stands waiting for the car to be lowered so I could get out. The exhaust still made some noise but hay, that’s just get on with it. We entered the track for our sighting lap and the heavens opened.

The rain was torrential, my windscreen misted instantly and I could see nothing. I slowed to walking pace and made my way back to the pits, it was very difficult finding the pit lane but on the way I remember water coming in the car from the floor, it was spraying on to my fire extinguisher. So much for fitting the windscreen heater?

When I finally made to the pits Willie was having the same problems as were many others. The cars still out were held on the start line, we both seized the opportunity and sorted out windscreen demisting units, the heater for me and Willie rigged up a hose taking in air from the window. We both went out but by now the lead cars were on lap two.

In this race the inter-series the cars are far quicker than the swinging sixties and 72 cars were on the grid. We qualified 42nd and almost 20 seconds behind the lead car.

When I joined the track I ended up right in the middle of some rapid caterhams so I just got out of the way then got my head down, the first few laps were horrendous. Have you ever tried driving a rear wheel drive car with 350+ hp on semi slick tyres at racing speeds? On my second lap a caterham passed me going down in to en rouge and then spun in front of me. The rain had stopped by now and the spray was easing so I was starting to enjoy myself. Living in the north of Scotland is good preparation for these driving conditions. I came in after what I thought was 8 or 9 laps as the safety car was out and I was being slowed by the car in front.

It turns out that I had only completed 5 laps, Gordon went out and raced till the end completing 10 or 11 laps on a drying track.

Willie and Robin had a good run full of entertainment and good racing, Willie as always put in a crowd pleasing performance and Robin was challenging an Aston Martin. He got the Aston on the brakes then spun almost taking them both out, he recovered and went for it again. Not bad for a Capri racer

Like I said we made so many mistakes but at least both cars completed the two races. But we need to remember this was our first major event. It’s a learning curve and we have to make a note of the lessons learned so that we are better prepared for the next one.

The big surprise was our finishing positions in race two, we were 2nd and 3rd in class, even more encouraging was our lap times were 10 seconds per lap faster than the lead car in class. Had we started on lap 1 we could have been first and second in class.

Enough of my talking, I have missed so much from our trip but have no time to write a book.

Our next race is Silverstone on the 4th September

Videos and pictures to follow.

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Postby PeterTR7V8 » 25 Aug 2010 20:13

Brilliant read thanks, Barry. Can't wait for the movie. [:)]

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Postby john » 26 Aug 2010 06:44

I keep flicking through the motors channel but always seem to miss when your on

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