Rear fogs - the law versus your opinions.

macmattom · Postby **macmattom** » 23 Aug 2009 23:09

My FHC is (I believe) a 1977 model - I'm awaiting the V5 back from DVLA to confirm this. My question here is: does this early type model need rear fogs by law?

If so, I'd like to gauge opinion. The car has what I believe is a Viper bodykit (I didn't fit it but reckon it looks the business). From the back it looks like this:

but there is no natural place to locate any fogs. I was thinking of trying to locate them either next to either side of the number plate or under the bodykit. Both would spoil the aesthetics and look pants, but if the law is the law then they gotta go smewhere. Another option is to adapt one of the reverse lights.

Does anybody have any thoughts or pictures they'd care to share with me because I'd be very interested.

Thanks again,

Mac

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Red · Postby **Red** » 23 Aug 2009 23:14

According to http://www.ukmot.com/1-1.asp:

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">The inspection of rear fog lamps is confined to the one rear fog lamp which is required to be fitted to the centre or offside of vehicles first used on or after 1 April 1980.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
So you needn't worry. [:)]

Car looks great, BTW.

Garry

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busheytrader · Postby **busheytrader** » 24 Aug 2009 08:11

I've never seen them as standard on the pre common underbody cars myself, but I wouldn't want to drive without rear fog lights anyway.

People seem to have a hard enough job recognising our lights anyway, let alone in the fog. Adapting a reversing light sounds like a cool way of keeping the rear silhouette unchanged.

Adam Nice photos!

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wedggie perrin · Postby **wedggie perrin** » 24 Aug 2009 15:11

adapting a reversing light is also illegal as fog lamp has to be 100mm away from rear lights.

marknotgeorge · Postby **marknotgeorge** » 24 Aug 2009 20:01

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by wedggie perrin

adapting a reversing light is also illegal as fog lamp has to be 100mm away from rear lights.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Strictly speaking, the regulations require a 100mm separation between the closest illuminated edge of the rear fog light and the brake light. Also, the fog light would have to be e-marked as a fog light. so it's a bit of a double whammy. Having said that, some forum members have got their cars through an MoT test with such a mod, so the risk is entirely up to you.

Mark, Derby, UK.
'80 DHC Sprint - '95 Vauxhall Astra - '00 Vauxhall Zafira
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moestr7v8 · Postby **moestr7v8** » 24 Aug 2009 23:49

Hi Mac
Have a look at Paul W's car he has a viper body kit and the rear fog lights,I think they are Land Rover Discovery lights,set into the bumper and it looks really good.
Cheers
Moe

macmattom · Postby **macmattom** » 25 Aug 2009 19:06

Thanks Moe.

Paul, have you got any photos you could share with me?

Cheers,

Mac

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stevie_a · Postby **stevie_a** » 25 Aug 2009 20:19

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If it's not broke don't fix it.

Odd · Postby **Odd** » 25 Aug 2009 21:35

And if you look close enough you can see the solution on dads TR7V8 here:

macmattom · Postby **macmattom** » 27 Aug 2009 20:53

Paul, yours look really good but I reckon Odd's just about edge it. I certainly have something to look for now, thanks.

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macmattom · Postby **macmattom** » 28 Aug 2009 18:53

Paul, I really like the steel inserts around your exhaust - did you buy them or manufacture them yourselves? I will probably have to cut a hole out of the body kit for my exhaust, and reckon a plate like yours would do two great jobs in one - look superb AND hide the mess I'll probably leave behind. Are they made from stainless steel, chrome plated, polished ally or what?

Cheers,

Mac

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macmattom · Postby **macmattom** » 28 Aug 2009 18:55

Does anybody have any idea where I could get hold of a set of high-intensity fog lights like Odd's in the UK? I'll be trawling 'tinternet, but any pointers would be greatly received.

Cheers,

Mac

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danny · Postby **danny** » 28 Aug 2009 21:04

Hi,
Here is what I did. I fitted a red lense behind the clear reversing lamp lense, a double filament holder from a spitty mk4 is used for brake/stop lamp on the outside red & a single filament (original fitment) in the inside red. The stop light is on the outside red this gives some seperation between the stop lamp and the fog lamp.
No problems with the MOT ether.

Danny
1980 TR7 fhc Brooklands green
1967 Spitfire Mk3 Signal red
1953 Ford Anglia E494A Black
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nofinchance · Postby **nofinchance** » 29 Aug 2009 08:47

The need for a fog light on a 1977 car is not a legal requirement.Any part not fitted from the factory or not required by the laws in place at time of vehicle prouduction does not have to be there however if you do fit a fog lamp it has to function with a warning lamp in the car to show it's status and all parts need to work to pass an MOT.I got into a arguement with a MOT station years ago when they failed my 1977 Ford Capri MK2 for non working foglamp.The MK2 has no fog lamps from the factory or as your car any place for them.The MK3 has them built into the rear lamps as the law required it by the prouduction of the MK3.Also pre 1973 landrover owners I know have had similer problems with seatbelts.Thier cars don't have any!!!

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macmattom · Postby **macmattom** » 30 Aug 2009 17:52

I never realised how hard it was to find rear fog lights [:(]. I've tried online and at Halfords - no joy [:(!]. I can get lights, but not the sort I'm after! That'll teach me to be picky. Can anybody point me in the right direction - I DO like Odd's lights.

Cheers,

Mac.

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