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Postby dave.c » 23 May 2009 09:06

Hi all
My front end seems low hitting speed bumps etc, when I bought it the previous owner had the spoiler seperate I guess for the same reason.
My question is how do you know if the springs are defective or the shocks.The car was converted to V8 but dont know if suspension was uprated for the heavier lump.
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Postby Ianftr8 » 23 May 2009 09:17

Hi Dave,

So many of our cars have been lowered, and with the state of the roads everywhere these days and the humps that are added to slow us down cause all sorts of problems.
When you are driving on a normal road and going round roundabouts what does the car feel like? are you getting a bouncy ride?
Try pushing down on the corners do they feel the same?

There are loads of options for new springs and shockers, lowered or standard ride height.

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Postby dave.c » 23 May 2009 11:04

Hi Ian
It drives OK round islands I guess but due to fuel problems I have'nt driven it too far.(new tank&pump now pump seems faulty).
My front left corner does'nt move when pushed down also an earlier post by Mr Beans has 24" from floor mine is around 22"The rears look fine at around 25"
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Postby TR Tony » 23 May 2009 12:03

Dave, the Rover V8 engine is actually very little heavier than the standard 2 litre, due to all alloy construction.

While uprated springs are often fitted (200lb spring rate is common) the reason is not so much to take extra weight, but to firm up the ride which many consider too soft on standard springs.

On standard suspension set ups the ride height is not adjustable. Sometimes the springs are not only uprated but shorter, to lower the ride height. If you car has had lowered springs fitted at the front then this could explain why the front hits bumps etc.

Shorter springs are not a good idea at the rear of the car, as the spring is only held in place by it's own tension. A shortened spring on the rear can actually fall out when the suspension is fully extended - I have seen it happen! Of course this wont happen on the front as the spring is fitted to the strut.

To test your shocks, you should be able to push down hard on each corner of the car, & it should bounce back then stop. If you cannot push it down or if continues to bounce up & down on the rebound, then the shocker may be faulty. The original shockers were not the best, so very often Spax or Konis or AVOs are fitted, and any of these can have adjustable damping for fine tuning the ride & handling to your liking.

Have a look under the car - you should be able to spot after market shockers if you clean the crud off them! Replacement springs are often painted red for some reason, factory springs were black with a coloured stripe to indicate the rating.

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Postby busheytrader » 23 May 2009 18:34

Dave,

I'd add that at 35,000 miles and 6 years old the front end of my 7 had a distinct floaty vague feel to it, especially at 50mph or above. The shox were well past their best but still passed the MOT. Uprated springs, solid bushes and Spax were a revelation when fitted.

Our cars are pretty low on standard suspension anyway so speed humps don't agree with them, even worse when lowered.

If you're still suffering fuel starvation problems after a new tank and pump, maybe the lines and carbs need flushing out?

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Postby bmcecosse » 23 May 2009 20:07

The dampers make no odds to the right height - only the springs can do that. If it's too low - you need longer/stronger springs. The 'anti-dive' kit is well worth fitting - makes no odds to the ride height (or to the 'dive!') - but it does firm up the front end very nicely making for much better turn-in.

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Postby FI Spyder » 24 May 2009 03:04

When purchased, I would scrape on cat cage on any speedbump even when taken slowly. I replaced front springs with new stock ones. The shocks had no dampning. Replaced with KYB gas. Rear is untouched with old Koni's. I now only bottom on the largest speedbumps but I still take it easy over all of them. (13"tires) I operate at 34 lbs. In my opinion the car doesn't dive, the cornering and ride is crisp.

I've been offered to drive a TR7 with 200 lb. springs and 50 series tires at 38lbs. for comparison. Will be an intersting drive.



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