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Shifter Bushings

Postby pupinabox » 15 Apr 2010 18:27

The shifter on my 1980 TR8 has a rubbing sound, especially when going into second gear. The sound is a different frequency depending on how fast I am going. I have deduced that the shifter bushings are probably bad and have ordered a set from TheWedgeShop.

My question is: Can I get to all four of these going thru the hole for the shifter? Can you get to them from the underside of the car? Anybody got any pictures? I have scoured the red covered shop manual for both the 7 and 8 and there is no mention of how to change them, which is wierd because you could probably take the car apart bolt by bolt and put it back with one of these.

The reason I am concerened is I do not want to have to drop the transmission because a) I am not that smart or talented, and b) I replaced the rubber goo of a transmission mount about a year ago and when I did the bolt that runs thru it into the transmission housing basically just fell out on it's own because everything was striped and I had to put a coil insert in to get it to go back together. It is all nice and solid now, but I don't want to temp fate by trying to take it out and put it back in.[:p]

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Postby TriumphCMT » 15 Apr 2010 18:41

I replaced all of mine from the underside of the car without removing anything. It's not that difficult. If you lube up the bushings it will be real easy to slide them into place. I didn't think about that until after I installed them dry.[xx(] Took me about 15 mins to install them.

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Postby Beans » 15 Apr 2010 20:21

You'll have to work from the underside, indeed pretty easy that way.

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Postby Hasbeen » 16 Apr 2010 02:15

I've done 3 sets of these now, all from underneath.

The first one I did with the thing just up on spme 10 inch ramps. I
did have learn a couple of new curses, but once I threatened to
burn the thing, it started cooperating, OK.

The next couple were much easier, as I had built a set of 4'6" high
drive on ramps, down the paddock, & knew the right words to use, to
frighten the thing into submission.

This is one job where it's worth giving it a good clean, steam, or
water blaster, before you start. Makes it much easier.

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Postby FI Spyder » 16 Apr 2010 02:47

I did mine from underneath (car on jackstands) but had the wife hold/position the shifter rod so it was easier to start the bolts in the threads.


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Postby Wayne S » 16 Apr 2010 09:56

Just to go against the grain - I did mine from above AND below. I found removing the gearstick surround and gaitor gave me better access to the ones at the top front. The bottom ones I did from below though - fairly easy job but I wouldn't bother doing it with rubber replacements the poly versions make the gear shift soooo much slicker.



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Postby pupinabox » 16 Apr 2010 15:03

Well, you guys are helping my confidence a little. I got a set of poly's from Woody. Just to be a little clearer, the bolts go thru the brackets and directly into the transmission housing? Or is it a bolt and nut thing?

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Postby busheytrader » 16 Apr 2010 17:49

Hi,

The bushes sleeve the bolts. I replaced mine from underneath BUT instead of slackening all the bolts to just a few threads and replacing the bushes one by one, a few of them became undone and the remote housing moved too much and dropped down.

The result - the remote lever effectively became disengaged from the gearbox and the whole job took 3 times longer to sort out - I had to drop the gearbox tail end to give me room to put everything back together.

I replaced them a second time to go down the polybush route. This time I slackened off all the bolts together but removed them one by one to replace the bushes. Much easier!!!

Hope this helps,

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Postby Bendder » 16 Apr 2010 18:16

Did all mine from under the car, one at a time no problem. My shiftter had a mark on it from rubbing on the drive shaft! Anyway I ordered and used the plastic ones from the guy off fleebay can't remember his name right now but I think I still have it at home somewhere. Wow what a difference that made. Not a big job might have been 1hr maybe 2. That might have been because of the beer though.



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Postby Dan B » 16 Apr 2010 19:36

I did it from underneath, on jackstands, lying on my back. Got my hands real greasy from all the junk in there, so whoever said that about washing it off first is right. All the old rubber was gone out of mine pretty much. Night and day was the difference afterward. I only had a little trouble getting one of the top ones in, but it wasn't bad.

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Postby pupinabox » 17 Apr 2010 14:57

Well I got the bottom ones on no problem. The front ones will need to wait. I can see them and it looks like there are no bushings left!! And then depression set in[V] After a bit of poking around, literally, my beloved 8 appears to have a terminal cae of tinworm cancer!!! I am so depressed right now[B)][B)][B)] I guess factory spec's do not call for being able to touch the interior carpet from under the car?? Ha ha, CRAP!!!!

I am going to start a new thread for this one.

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Postby Workshop Help » 17 Apr 2010 15:22

This is truly a kick in the head. It illustrates the wonderful effect government applied salt on the roads can have on fine British steel lacking in factory applied undercoating. Oh, well. Just another chore to put on the list, right after the big move to the desert southwest where there is no such thing as a snow shovel!

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Postby Hasbeen » 17 Apr 2010 23:02

That's bad news Pup, but it's probably not really terminal.

You have not posted a pick, or described where it is, but if it's in
the foot wells, you should be able to get it fixed up for less than
a kings ransom.

Good luck with it.

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Postby pupinabox » 19 Apr 2010 00:56

I will try to get a pic up soon. It is now about a golf ball sized hole and it is more or less about the middle, and to the left, of the driver (lhd) seat. Still thinking.

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Postby nick » 19 Apr 2010 01:55

I don't want to add to your woes, but where there is smoke there is fire. It may pay you inspect all the floors by pulling the carpet up. Also pull off the wiper/windscreen finisher and check under it. Others may be able to add to the list of likely places.

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