Body Tag

Shauniedawn · Postby **Shauniedawn** » 26 Dec 2007 17:29

Hiya everyone

The attached photo is of a body id tag off one of my 7s. I think it's off the DHC?

Can you shed some light onto what the meaning of the letters and numbers are please?

My assumptions are paint/body codes and body number? But that is just guessing.

Cheers

Shaun

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paul w · Postby **paul w** » 26 Dec 2007 18:50

That is a bodyshell serial no.
They are often missing on wedges that have had panels changed.
My auto has one mounted on the n/s front panel in the engine
bay(ledge above rad.)but the v8 has it on the n/s turret.
these no.s are not often quoted so i don't know of their
significance,certainly other B.L.marques/models had them.

See ya. Paul

Beans · Postby **Beans** » 26 Dec 2007 22:45

It's indeed the body number, nothing to do with paintcode or VIN number. Is it a late (Solihull built) DHC ???

These numbers still are a mistery to me. Got 5 complete cars, all built in 1980 or 1981 but the body numbers are all completely different

<center>

1981 TR7 FHC Sprint (better known as 't Kreng)
1981 TR7 DHC (not very well known yet, but back on the road)
Also a 1980 TR7 DHC, 1980 TR7 DHC FI, 1981 TR7 FHC
http://tr7beans.blogspot.com/</center>

Shauniedawn · Postby **Shauniedawn** » 26 Dec 2007 23:45

Thanks for the responses so far chaps.

Beans. I've been searching through old photo's and sussed which car it's off (excuse me I've got too many - so the wife says...!) It's from my T registered August 1978 FHC, VIN number ACG17418. So where would that one have been built?

The DHC details are: 1981(W reg). Don't know where it was built either - sorry. The VIN for this one is TPADJ7AT214499.

Regards

Shaun

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paul w · Postby **paul w** » 27 Dec 2007 08:55

Shaun, ACG is a Speke built wedge.TPADJ7AT is a Canley car.
T-Triumph
P-TR7 TR8 range
A-UK or europe J-Japanese K-Australian L-Canadian V-US Fed
Z-Californian markets
D-DHC E-fixed head
J-4 cylinder V-8 cylinder
7-rhd manual 3-rhd auto 4-lhd auto 8-lhd manual
A-1980-81 model rest of world spec B-1981 model US mkt. C-1982
model US
T-Canley A-Solihull

T-Canley

ACG simply means 1976-78 rest of world TR7 fixed head.
All this info can be found in Original TR7 & TR8 ISBN 0-7603-0972-8

See ya. Paul

Beans · Postby **Beans** » 27 Dec 2007 12:07

Just to give an indication of the rather random [?] body numbers;
BCP 200311 - 1980 DHC
CEP 300270 - 1981 FHC
T 17451 CG - 1981 DHC
17077 CG - 1981 FHC
CGP 300091 - 1981 DHC

<center>

1981 TR7 FHC Sprint (better known as 't Kreng)
1981 TR7 DHC (not very well known yet, but back on the road)
Also a 1980 TR7 DHC, 1980 TR7 DHC FI, 1981 TR7 FHC
http://tr7beans.blogspot.com/</center>

Henk · Postby **Henk** » 27 Dec 2007 12:52

My car has; BAP 206693 DHC juni 1980

Henk

1980 TR7 US Convertible
1978 Mini Clubman Estate

paul w · Postby **paul w** » 27 Dec 2007 15:25

My TR7 auto has Body no. BBP 203248 - 1980 DHC
TR7V8 has body no. CHP 300434 - 1981 DHC
All these serials seem to have little logic in
their sequence,does anyone out there have the
solution?

See ya. Paul

Odd · Postby **Odd** » 27 Dec 2007 18:19

My 1980 '8 has got BAP213904,
and most 1980 DHC TR8 I know of [that still have the body number strip left] starts out with BAP...

On VIN numbers:
We must be aware that the model year letter was [for some strange! reason] A for all of the years
when it came to UK market cars. The NA market cars got all three of them: 1980 was A, 1981 was B
and 1982 was C. The C [for 1982 model year] were used on a late batch intended for the Canadian
market. There were 69 TR8 built with that designation - and God only knows how many/few of the
ordinary TR7...
I'm trying to insert an Excel-sheet here but it seems all the formatting information is stripped.
If someone knows how to do this, could you please send me a personal message and I'll try to fix it.
In that case you'll get the '81 extended version VIN system as well...
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Here you have the {complete?] key to the VIN used on them:
For models 1980 and onwards a new internationally standardised system for
Vehicle Identity Numbers [VIN] were introduced:

Position - Meaning - Alternatives - Meaning in our case
1
Geographical area: S Europa
2
Manufacturing country: A United Kingdom
3
Manufacturer: T Triumph
X British Leyland (for Triumph Acclaim)
4
Marque/Brand: T Triumph
X British Leyland (for Triumph Acclaim)
5
Model: D Acclaim
F Spitfire
P TR7 / TR8
W Dolomite
6
Specification: A UK and/or EUrope or 'Standard/Basic'-issue
E CD-issue
F HLS-issue
H HL-issue
J Japan
K Australia
L Canada
T Sprint
V USA, 49-state
Z USA, California
7
Body type: D or 4 Convertible
E or 5 CoupÃ©
L Saloon, 4 door
8
Engine Type: A 4 cylinder, 1,3 liter
C 4 cylinder, 1,85 liter
D 4 cylinder, 2 liter 16 valve
J or 1 4 cylinder, 2 liter 8 valve
V or 5 8 cylinder, 3,5 liter
W 4 cylinder, 1,5 liter
X 4 cylinder, 1,335 liter
9
Steering & Gearbox: 1 RHD, manual 4-sp gearbox
2 LHD, manual 4-sp gearbox
3 RHD, automatic gearbox
4 LHD, automatic gearbox
5 RHD, manual 4-sp gearbox with OD
6 LHD, manual 4-sp gearbox with OD
7 RHD, manual 5-sp gearbox
8 LHD, manual 5-sp gearbox
10
Year Model: A 1980
B 1981
C 1982
D 1983 etc...
11
Assembly plant: T Canley-plant in Coventry
A Solihull-plant in Birmingham
M Cowley-plant in Oxford
D Longbridge-plant in Birmingham
G MG-plant in Abingdon

Beans · Postby **Beans** » 27 Dec 2007 19:27

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Odd

...We must be aware that the model year letter was [for some strange! reason] A for all of the years
when it came to UK market cars. The NA market cars got all three of them: 1980 was A, 1981 was B
and 1982 was C...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Always interresting those Leyland numbers, all my cars from early 1980 to late 1981 have "A" for the model year [:I]

<center>

1981 TR7 FHC Sprint (better known as 't Kreng)
1981 TR7 DHC (not very well known yet, but back on the road)
Also a 1980 TR7 DHC, 1980 TR7 DHC FI, 1981 TR7 FHC
http://tr7beans.blogspot.com/</center>

Odd · Postby **Odd** » 27 Dec 2007 21:46

Yes, that's because they were'nt affected by the NA regulations, so Leyland just didn't care...

TR Tony · Postby **TR Tony** » 27 Dec 2007 21:55

Well, I can't explain the seemingly random body numbering system, but as far as I know at the start of production there were two series of body numbers.

Numbers beginning with T were for trimmed bodies, those without the T prefix were untrimmed. The first TR7 shell numbers were T1CG & 1CG. Interestingly the TR8 body numbers are also allocated at this early stage, as T1CK & 1CK.

So, Shaun's body number was a trimmed shell. I don't know how much of the trim was fitted to these T prefix bodies - anyone got any further info on this? And why were some shells delivered trimmed & some not?

As the examples in this thread show, the numbers seem to be quite random, but the parts manual does refer to body numbers as well as commission numbers, so there must have been some system to it all.

Did Triumph build the shells themselves at Speke, then after Speke closed have the shells built by Pressed Steel Fisher & shipped into the Canley & Solihull factories? Maybe the later numbers have correlation to the place of manufacture of the shell?

Bit of a mystery[:)]

Tony

1981 2L FHC Cavalry Blue - very original & not rusty!
1980 3.5L V8 DHC Regency Red - on the road again.

john 215 · Postby **john 215** » 27 Dec 2007 22:15

Hi,
From what i can remenber,most BL,Austin Rover cars had some form of tag,i wonder if any other owner clubs/forums can shed any light on there meaning[?]
Cheers John.

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1979 3.5 FHC(STATUS PENDING!!)

1982 2.0 DHC Soon to be a 4.6 fire breather!!
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Shauniedawn · Postby **Shauniedawn** » 27 Dec 2007 22:46

It's certainly a lot more complicated than I thought it would be!

Thanks again

Shaun[:)]

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moestr7v8 · Postby **moestr7v8** » 27 Dec 2007 22:53

The bodies were built at Swindon after Speke and shipped to Canley but not sure about the Solihull built cars.
Regards Moe[8D]

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