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unreasonably hard throttle pedal....what gives?

Postby JamesH » 21 Aug 2016 03:56

my stock-ish 1980 TR7 DHC has an unreasonably stiff pedal. it has the US standard ZS carbs and a new throttle cable. (the old cable was broken at the firewall when i bought the car...i replaced it recently. i have used zip-ties to anchor the cable and give it gentle curves and not sharp angles.) so, is there a trick here? lighter springs on the carbs? anybody have insight? i am at a risk to chirp the tires coming off red-lights because i have to punch the pedal to break it away from its resting position.
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Re: unreasonably hard throttle pedal....what gives?

Postby Beans » 21 Aug 2016 09:42

Is it stiff all the way down or only on the first part of its travel?
If it's the last, check the linkage. Pictures below is the SU version but the Stromberg should be more or less the same.
Problem is the linkage rod that wears out, giving a lot of initial resistance when opening the throttle.
Easily sorted with two ball joints and matching threaded rod (on the right).

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1976 TR7 FHC (currently being restored ...)
1980 TR7 DHC (my first car, a.k.a. Kermette)
1981 TR7 FHC (Sprint engined a.k.a. 't Kreng)

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Re: unreasonably hard throttle pedal....what gives?

Postby Spike » 21 Aug 2016 17:43

Had a similar problem with mine, check everything for wear. Mine had also worn on the main pivot on the mounting bracket, as well as the rod, also check the throttle spindles for wear as well.

Replaced, throttle mounting bracket, rod with ball joints, new throttle cable, new throttle spindles and cleaned and greased the throttle peddle. When I replaced the rod with ball joints I've adjusted it to be slightly longer as this also seems to give a slightly smoother throttle action.

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Re: unreasonably hard throttle pedal....what gives?

Postby Spike » 21 Aug 2016 17:53

I used one of these to replace the rod http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Weber-Throttl ... XQROxRF4Wy

on SU's you need to trim it slightly. You can also by generic stuff cheaper.

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Re: unreasonably hard throttle pedal....what gives?

Postby sonscar » 22 Aug 2016 21:20

Best £15 I spent on my car.Steve.

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Re: unreasonably hard throttle pedal....what gives?

Postby tr8 » 22 Aug 2016 23:43

I once had a similar problem, can't remember if it was an MGB or TR8, but doesn't change the cause. Found the throttle sticky and when I went to check it I found that it was GLOWING red. It was acting as the ground cable!! Pretty sure this was after a recent engine switch.

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Re: unreasonably hard throttle pedal....what gives?

Postby Spike » 23 Aug 2016 11:53

had that on my MG Metro, strap came loose with a lovely smell of burning plastic in the car.

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Re: unreasonably hard throttle pedal....what gives?

Postby JamesH » 04 Sep 2016 19:24

thought you might be interested in the solution. the linkage arm that comes up and hooks the over head spring was fouling on a hose clamp on the vacuum line elbow that attaches to the front carb. you know, the 2 cent problem that fouls up operation of the multiple-thousand dollar car. i twisted the clamp a quarter way around and now the pedal doesn't take extra force to get it moving. miraculous!
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MGB GT 1972--driver
International Scout 4x4 1963--driver
MGB tourer 1977--project
MG Magnette ZB 1958--project
MG Magnette IV 1963--project
Opel Kadett wagon 1968--project
Porsche 914 1975--project

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Re: unreasonably hard throttle pedal....what gives?

Postby tr8 » 04 Sep 2016 21:25

Glad you found the cause. Looking at your signature, with 5 project cars, I think you like detective work...

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Re: unreasonably hard throttle pedal....what gives?

Postby JamesH » 06 Sep 2016 04:01

i appreciate your kind comment....thats not what my wife calls it...she uses unkind words like "obsession" and "insanity."
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MGB GT 1972--driver
International Scout 4x4 1963--driver
MGB tourer 1977--project
MG Magnette ZB 1958--project
MG Magnette IV 1963--project
Opel Kadett wagon 1968--project
Porsche 914 1975--project

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Re: unreasonably hard throttle pedal....what gives?

Postby tr8 » 06 Sep 2016 04:34

Having had LBCs for a very long time I think of it as a PHD...permanent head damage

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Re: unreasonably hard throttle pedal....what gives?

Postby JamesH » 06 Sep 2016 04:38

i sure won't say that you are wrong....but will add that i have a pretty short commute and a stressful day job. my car "habit" is a partial antidote for my day job at pretty minimal risk, (because of the short commute) usually.
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MGB GT 1972--driver
International Scout 4x4 1963--driver
MGB tourer 1977--project
MG Magnette ZB 1958--project
MG Magnette IV 1963--project
Opel Kadett wagon 1968--project
Porsche 914 1975--project

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Re: unreasonably hard throttle pedal....what gives?

Postby FI Spyder » 06 Sep 2016 15:21

Sometimes (most often?) the most complex and/or most difficult to diagnose problems have the simplest solutions.
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