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Heater matrix

Postby John Wood » 28 Aug 2014 19:34

Is it the same in air con models? Also TR8?

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Postby nick » 28 Aug 2014 23:49

The AC matrix has an evaporator. Also different controls.

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Postby FI Spyder » 29 Aug 2014 04:14

A/C models don't have the rubber seal thingy's that disintegrate and are hard to find.

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Postby TR Tony » 31 Aug 2014 17:48

No John, different. DZB3226 for the non A/C cars (with the seals DZB3255), the matrix for an A/C heater box is AAU2021. However same for TR7 & TR8 contained within the complete heater unit AAP273 for heater only cars or AAP274 for A/C cars.

As mentioned the A/C unit also contains AAP156 the evaporator for the cooling side.

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Postby john 215 » 31 Aug 2014 19:14

Hi,

At least you don't have to worry about these bad boys on a A/C system -

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triumph-TR7-T ... 35dbb87ce3


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Postby busheytrader » 31 Aug 2014 20:27

Wow! They're probably worth more gramme for gramme than gold is. No wonder they were auctioned instead of sold at a fixed price.

Personally I'd fit one of those replacement matrix without the rubber seals if I was rebuilding my heater again. I bought my replacement seals with those stainless steel pipes a couple of years ago just before the seals become unobtainable. A fiver for the pair [:)]

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Postby TR Tony » 01 Sep 2014 07:08

A good example of the influence of supply & demand - on that basis I've got about £200 worth of seals[:D]

The alternative matrix idea sounds attractive but you still have a section of rubber hose between the pipes & the inlet/outlet, so is the hose likely to last longer than the seals? I guess you could use proper automotive silicon hose which does seem to be less susceptible to deterioration with age. Anyone tried it?

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Postby Chris Turner » 01 Sep 2014 07:12

The modified matrix sold by S+S is very good, just make sure you use good quality reinforced hoses.

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Postby sonscar » 01 Sep 2014 08:00

Good quality hoses seem to be made of unobtanium.The original hoses have every right to fail at 30+years,quality replacenents from a well known racepart supplier,reinforced with kevlar,fail after 5 years.Fuel hose fron a leading parts retailer leak after 2 years.how can you determine quality?Steve..

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Postby sheetsofsound » 03 Sep 2014 14:58

I replaced my matrix with the heater matrix from a VW. The details are in the workshop section. The PO had rebuilt the matrix in 1999 and replaced the steel pipes with heater hose. He had kept the original matrix and silver soldered short sections of pipe in place instead of using the rubber seals. The matrix itself was weeping coolant and I couldn't tell if it was the solder joints or internally somewhere else.

The car sat for 15 years until I restarted it in March of this year. The replacement hoses he had put in didn't leak in spite of sitting all that time. When I replaced the matrix with the VW unit I put in new good quality hoses, but can't comment on how long they'll last. The car has been my daily driver since I got it running and I've had no problems so far - touch wood. Do others find their hoses in the engine bay failing that often?

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Postby FI Spyder » 03 Sep 2014 18:11

I replaced all rubber hoses 7 years ago (coolant/fuel), fuel hoses were 50 lb. hoses (regulator limits it to 34 lbs.) Everything is fine so far. The upper coolant hose (made in UK) runs hottest and has fine cracks on the ends were the jubilee clip grips it. No leaks but next coolant change I'll change it out (as well as install tap in place of LH side block plug).

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Postby Hasbeen » 03 Sep 2014 23:06

I had a fuel hose, branded with a top US name, fail in about 12 months. It developed very fine radial cracks which I did not notice, then split. You had to bend the hose around a finger to get the cracks to open up enough to see. They were invisible when the hose was fitted to the pump.

About 3 years ago my son fitted a new hose to the transmission oil cooler. This lasted only minutes, failing after about 10 kilometers of driving.

I then got onto our gearbox builder, who builds a large percentage of the drag racing boxes in Queensland.

He advised most of the hose is now coming out of Asia or Mexico, & is really bad. Top brand names are using this hose. His advice was use only hose branded MADE IN THE USA. He also suggested using injection hose only, even on carb engines, for extra quality construction.

I've had no further problems following this advice.

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