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Spotlights or not!!

Postby smoking joe » 09 Nov 2013 08:09

I have noticed that there are 2 spare wires with
connectors within the loom as part of the headlamp bunch, each side.

I could not locate in the wiring diagrams and guess that they are for spot lights, tested them but nothing. So if they are for lights
what does one need to do the use them ? I was thinking about a pair of rectangular spots under the bumper, wire in relays to allow
use of more powerful bulbs.

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Postby supercass » 09 Nov 2013 10:43

I believe that these wires if original should extend under the bumper and will be for front fog lights which would have been mounted under the bumper as an option. Can't remember if the wiring extended to the switch itself or finished before, but the original rear fog light switch was a two position switch. At the time the car was made the lighting regulations iirc did not permit spot lights to be mounted this low and because of the large bumpers spotlights would thus would have had to be mounted on top of the bumper, not very streamlined for everyday use! Current legislation I think may permit their use under the bumper however. Round lights look quite nice under the bumper if set back a little. Possibly worthwhile looking into LED lights. supercass

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Postby Cobber » 09 Nov 2013 18:32

<font size="2"><font face="Comic Sans MS">I have both fog and spot lights under my bumper.
They are small, so not exactly "bunny burners" as we call large high power spotties but they are effective and give all the light your likely to need.
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As for the wiring I ran new stuff with relays a new switches.</font id="Comic Sans MS"></font id="size2">


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Postby Workshop Help » 09 Nov 2013 19:27

What a very nice little car I'm seeing. I even like the color. Too bad the steering wheel is on the wrong side. But I do like your custom parking brake there on the right rear wheel.

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Postby FI Spyder » 09 Nov 2013 22:08

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Mildred</i>

But I do like your custom parking brake there on the right rear wheel.
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Should be at the back to protect the car parked behind....[:)]


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Postby Cobber » 10 Nov 2013 01:18

<font size="2"><font face="Comic Sans MS">The brick is at the front of the wheel for two reasons:
*1 The car is parked on a slope and the brick is on the downhill side.
*2 The car behind was a Volvo and as such it was built like a brick sh!thouse and wouldn't need protection.
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Postby Maxwell » 10 Nov 2013 01:42

WAS a Volvo? What is it now?

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Postby Cobber » 10 Nov 2013 04:05

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Maxwell</i>

WAS a Volvo? What is it now?
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<font size="2"><font face="Comic Sans MS">Probably reincarnated as fencing wire or concrete reinforcing bars by now! [:D]</font id="Comic Sans MS"></font id="size2">


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Postby busheytrader » 10 Nov 2013 06:30

In the UK, I've only seen fog,not spot,lights mounted under the front bumper on a wedge, and 90% of those were the factory or dealer fitted option.

The only time I saw spots fitted on a road car was when a workmate bolted some brackets directly on top of his front panel when neither of the lights would lift up[:0]

I fitted the brackets for them a few years ago but never got around to sourcing the lights. The loom has the wires for them but if I get around to fitting fogs I'll go down the relay route.......

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Postby TR Tony » 10 Nov 2013 06:43

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by smoking joe</i>

I have noticed that there are 2 spare wires with
connectors within the loom as part of the headlamp bunch, each side.

I could not locate in the wiring diagrams and guess that they are for spot lights, tested them but nothing. So if they are for lights
what does one need to do the use them ? I was thinking about a pair of rectangular spots under the bumper, wire in relays to allow
use of more powerful bulbs.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Are these wires (from memory) coloured orange & purple? If so those are the factory fit fog light wires. They should be live with the fog light switch in the first position - IIRC it's a permanent live so they work regardless of ignition or other light settings. I think they are designed to run 55W H4 foglamps, for the mounting of which there was a special bracket available back in the day.

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Postby HowardB » 10 Nov 2013 13:23

A couple of photos attached for comparison.

My car is fitted with two sets of lights under the bumper. One set is LED driving lights that are connected in parallel with the side lights to avoid the need to have dipped headlights all the time when driving in Europe and the second set (not illuminated) are additional driving lights wired in parallel with main beam. The advantage is that they flash immediately without having to wait for the headlight pods to raise.

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Postby sonscar » 11 Nov 2013 17:00

Not yet investigated and wiring but I have just removed these lights from the front of my car and they appear to have factory brackets fitted to existing holes.Still repairing extensive rust so will be a while before they go back on.
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Postby Beans » 11 Nov 2013 17:55

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by smoking joe</i>

... I was thinking about a pair of rectangular spots under the bumper, wire in relays to allow use of more powerful bulbs ...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Did exactly that with 't Kreng, using original brackets and 100W bulbs.
The alternator didn't like it [:I]

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Postby supercass » 12 Nov 2013 09:20

I've often wondered how the fog light brackets fitted, it seems obvious when you see them in situ! A very secure fitting indeed. supercass

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