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Postby Hasbeen » 07 Jun 2009 01:43

There are a number of 7s, & 8s that have been on the market in Oz,
at quite reasonable prices, for their condition, for some time. It
appears the car buying public don't want one of our cars, at fair
frices. However, the kids still love us.

After a couple of weeks of rain, [yes rain in Oz], a dry day
triggered me to take the topless 8 for a trip to town. At the
shopping centre I chose to park beside a big, shinny 4X4, with dark
tinted windows.

As I got out of the 8, the 4WDs back window rolled down, & a couple
of young faces appeared. The first one said "thats a cool car,
mister", & the second one said "I love your car". They wanted to
know what it was, how fast it was, & how old it was. They were
impressed that it was so much older than them.

I flicked the lights up, & down a couple of times for them, which
produced squeels of delight, & the wish that they could have a car
like it. I suggested they weren't that expensive, so may be their
dad could buy one.

At this the front window rolled down, & dad informed me that he
couldn't afford a "fun" car, they were too expensive.

As I wandered off to the shops, I noticed that the 4WD was a less
than 2 year old Porsche Cayenne. Even second hand, here in oz, that
would cost at least A$125,000. The depreciation on that thing, in
just 6 months would buy a very nice 8.

What do you do with one of those things. Do people take them off
road, where they might get scratched, & dented, or are they just to
impress the neighbours?

At least his kids have taste.

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Postby Rich in Vancouver » 07 Jun 2009 03:39

I saw a show on TV where they took a group of Cayennes on a rally across Russia. By the end of the trip they were starting to get some major failures, but I guess that is to be expected where people are thrashing cars that don't belong to them!
Isn't the Cayenne manufactured for Porsche by Steyr in Austria?

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Postby FI Spyder » 07 Jun 2009 04:21

Yah, just got back from local flying club fly-in + show and shine. Had the usual MGB guy saying "yup, worst car ever built, yours is only exceptional unrestored one I've ever seen but...worst cat ever built." The general public thought it was neat, especialy the kids. (Last years fly in only had a couple British cars apparently but this year almost as many as American cars with the peoples choice winner being a XK140 coupe.)



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Postby PeterTR7V8 » 07 Jun 2009 04:34

You flicked your lights!? That was brave. You had a 3/10 chance of looking a charlie there.

I reckon anyone has a Cayenne has more debt than sense.

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Postby Chunk » 07 Jun 2009 22:46

Has anyone ever seen an "exceptional unrestored" MGB? I doubt it.
These people make me laugh because MG and Triumph were part of the same company, British Leyland and the cars were probably made from the same steel and had the same standard of rust proofing i.e. low.
My brother worked at a MGB repair center for 18 months and the customers would spend thousands of pounds having corrosion repaired when really a new shell was the sensible option.

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Postby Ianftr8 » 08 Jun 2009 09:36

Last week on a visit to the local Triumph Stag club meet, an eldery owner asked me what car I said and on replying "a Wedge" he said "Crap cars" Leyland didn't manage to sell very many of them did they!"

Just a little bit wrong!
But I did have great delight in putting him straight - nice fellow bought me a pint afterwards!

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Postby john » 08 Jun 2009 12:16

You're right Hasbeen always getting kids and even teenagers, shouting out "Nice car Mate" one little kid thought it was a race car brmmmm brmmmmm.

And god forbid but i've even had mr white van man who i thought was trying to drive me off the road or get in the boot get out at the next set of traffic lights to explain that he wanted to know "What it was and how old was it" phew!!!!!!!


and as for MGB's had those done that not going back compared to the 7 it's an old car that was produced for far to long, good fun car in it's time. The 1960's that is but a noddy car"

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Postby Underdog » 08 Jun 2009 13:03

Thing I get a lot from young people is that they think it is a much newer car. The styling was certainly advanced for the time.

Having both an MGB and the TR8, I don't see a good way to compare the two. Like apples and oranges. I love both of them for different reasons.

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Postby Underdog » 08 Jun 2009 13:11

On the subject of SUVs and what to do with them, I submit this old column. Appologies to any SUV owners out there.[:D]


If there’s one thing this country needs, it’s bigger cars. That’s why I’m excited that Ford is coming out with a new mound o’ metal that will offer consumers even more total road squatting mass than the current leader in the humongous-car category, the popular Chevrolet Suburban Subdivision ----- the first passenger automobile designed to be, right off the assembly line, visible from the moon.
I don’t know what the new Ford will be called. Probably something like the “Ford Untamed Wilderness Adventure.â€￾ In the TV commercials, it will be shown splashing through rivers, charging up rocky mountainsides, swinging on vines, diving off cliffs, racing through the surf and fighting giant sharks hundreds of feet beneath the ocean surface ---- all the daredevil things that cars do in Sport Utility Vehicle Commercial World, where nobody ever drives on an actual road.
In fact, the interstate highways in Sport Utility Vehicle Commercial World, having been abandoned by humans, are teeming with deer, squirrels, birds and other wildlife species that have fled from the forest to avoid being run over by nature-seekers in multi-ton vehicles barreling through the underbrush at 50 miles per hour.
In the real world, of course, nobody drives Sport Utility Vehicles in the forest, because when you pay upwards of $40,000 for a transportation investment, the last thing you want is squirrels pooping on it.
No, if you want a practical “off roadâ€￾ vehicle, you get yourself a 1973 American Motors Gremlin, which combines the advantage of not being worth worrying about with the advantage of being so ugly that poisonous snakes flee from it in terror.
In the real world, what people mainly do with their Sport Utility Vehicles, as far as I can tell, is try to maneuver them into and out of parking spaces
I base this statement on my local supermarket, where many of the upscale patrons drive Chevrolet Subdivisions. I’ve noticed that these people often purchase just a couple of items----- maybe a bottle of water and a two-ounce package of low-fat dried carrot shreds-----which they put in the back of their Subdivisions, which have approximately the same cargo capacity, in cubic feet, as Finland.
This means there is plenty of room left over back there in case, on the way home, these people decide to pick up something else, such as a herd of bison.
Then comes the scary part: getting the Subdivision out of the parking space. This is a challenge, because the driver apparently cannot, while sitting in the drivers seat, see all the way to either end of the vehicle.
I drive a compact car, and on a number of occasions I have found myself trapped behind a Subdivision backing directly toward me, it’s massive metal butt looming high over my head, making me feel like a Tokyo pedestrian looking up at Godzilla.
I’ve tried honking my horn, but the Subdivision drivers can’t hear me, because they’re always talking on cellular phones the size of Chiclets. (“The Bigger Your Car, The Smaller your phone,â€￾ that is their motto.) I don’t know who they’re talking to. Maybe they’re negotiating with their bison suppliers.
Or maybe they’re trying to contact somebody in the same area code as the rear ends of their cars, so they can find out what’s going on back there. All I know is, I’m thinking of carrying marine flares, so I can fire them up in the air as a warning to Subdivision drivers that they’re about to run me over.
Although frankly I’m not sure they’d care if they did. A big reason why they bought a Sport Utility Vehicle is “safety,â€￾ in the sense of, “you, personally will be safe, although every now and then you may have to clean the remains of other motorists out of your wheel wells.
Anyway, now we have the new Ford, which will be EVEN LARGER than the Subdivision, which I imagine means it will have separate decks for the various classes of passengers, and possibly, way up in front by the hood ornament, Leonardo DiCaprio showing Kate Winslet how to fly. I can’t wait until one of these babies wheels into my supermarket parking lot.
Other motorists and pedestrians will try to flee in terror but they’ll be sucked in by the Ford’s powerful gravitational field and become stuck to its massive sides like so many refrigerator magnets. They won’t be noticed, however, by the Ford’s driver, who will be busy whacking at the side of his or her head, trying to dislodge his or her new cell phone, which is the size of a single grain of rice and has fallen deep into his or her ear canal.
And it won’t stop there. This is America, darn it, and Chevrolet is not about to just sit by and watch Ford walk away with the coveted title of Least Sane Motor Vehicle.
No, cars will keep getting bigger: I see a time, not so far from now, when upscale suburbanites will haul their overdue movies back to the video-rental store in full-size 18-wheel tractor-trailers with names like “The Vagabond.â€￾ It will be a proud time for all Americans, a time for us to cheer our country. We should cheer loud, because we’ll be hard to hear, inside the wheel wells.


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Postby wedggie perrin » 08 Jun 2009 17:05

Hasbeen,
I have found the same, most kids pass a comment like "Like your car" " Wow what is it?" etc So the Kids still love us!
As for other classic owners they fall into two catagories
1 like ALL classics.
2 Have little knowledge about any other car model than their own.
And for the second type the following write up is displayed on my windscreen at shows. . . . .
TRIUMPH TR7
The TR7 was launched in January 1975 and caught everyone by surprise for being unlike any previous TR.
Triumph knew that America was the main sales target but were proposing to ban open top cars!
This involved a brand new design over the old fashioned TR6.
The TR7 returned to the original TR2 recipe of a 2 litre engine & two seats. The convertible was introduced in 1980, and the TR8 soon after. Production stopped in Oct 1981 with 112,375 TR7’s & 2,715 TR8’s built, more than any other TR.
The TR7 is a sensible classic to own being less temperamental than previous TR’s & modern enough to be used every day.
In a recent 6 month long readers vote in “PRACTICAL CLASSICSâ€￾ magazine the readers voted the TR7 in the top ten of 100 best classics, the highest placed TR.



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Postby busheytrader » 08 Jun 2009 20:05

I often get kids saying "cool car mate" and "how old is it?" and "what's a Triumph"

When they hear that a V suffix means 1980 and that the car's 29 years old they are often amazed by the styling. Pop up headlights give added "Wow"


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Postby EntonoX » 08 Jun 2009 20:29

well i think most of us do know all the reactions, not only from kids.
when i was busy with my tr7 restoration i heard all kind of brand guesses fly by (toyota, ferrari, etc)

Only one person guessed it right but immediately after that comes the rust comment [}:)]

But before i bought my 7 i really had not heard of the tr7 so i think modern day people also don`t know half of their car history.

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Postby EntonoX » 08 Jun 2009 20:30

sorry, double post!

But i am 27 and i think one of the younger people to own a 7, and a freshly restored one! (6 years of work [:p])

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Postby FI Spyder » 08 Jun 2009 21:20

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In a recent 6 month long readers vote in “PRACTICAL CLASSICSâ€￾ magazine the readers voted the TR7 in the top ten of 100 best classics, the highest placed TR.

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I think I'll use that in my "info" sign at next car show. Where did MGB place? Alwayslove to turn the screws when I can.[:D]


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Postby busheytrader » 09 Jun 2009 01:01

"Where did MGB place? Alwayslove to turn the screws when I can"

Maybe these people can supply you with a promotional brochure for your needs.

http://www.mgbplastics.com/

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