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Anyone ever fit a wing to a FHC??

Posted: 17 Jun 2008 10:03
by 300bhpton
Nah not a fender...

But one of these:

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I know it's a bit OTT, but I kinda think one of these would actually suit the TR7 FHC shape, would also help with stability at high speed as well I would think.

I know, I know its not to everyones tastes and I'm not saying I would do it, just wondered if anyone had any pics of something similar?

Guess it would make it a 70's version of a Noble M12...... lol [:)]

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Posted: 17 Jun 2008 11:59
by PeterTR7V8
A club member here has a wing like that on his TR7 V8. It doesn't really suit the car. I don't have a picture of it unfortunately. I would say go for it if you think it will make it corner better but not if you are just trying to make it look better.

My own TR7 came with a MR2 MkI wing which is the sold squarish one. I don't think it looks too bad but it makes the boot lid very heavy & most people politely suggest I should get rid of it. I will do later in the year when it gets its respray.

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Have a look at this one where the MR2 wing is used as a bib spoiler.

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Posted: 17 Jun 2008 12:13
by jclay (RIP 2018)
Well, there is this whale tail!

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And Cake's car!

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Have fun, drive fast & safe, be kewl,

jclay
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Posted: 17 Jun 2008 13:26
by 300bhpton
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And Cake's car!

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Do you have any more info/pics on this car?

Thanks [:)]

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Posted: 17 Jun 2008 13:39
by jclay (RIP 2018)
More than you could ever want. They load rather slow!

[url="http://www.forum.triumphtr7.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6535"]Cake's thread![/url]

Have fun, drive fast & safe, be kewl,

jclay
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Posted: 17 Jun 2008 14:09
by John Wood
I don't generally like modified cars to much however that red car is quite spectacular. I would love to see it in the flesh.

Are there any photos of the engine bay?



1975 FHC
KDU483N

Posted: 17 Jun 2008 14:33
by 300bhpton
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More than you could ever want. They load rather slow!

[url="http://www.forum.triumphtr7.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6535"]Cake's thread![/url]

Have fun, drive fast & safe, be kewl,

jclay
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Thanks [:D]

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Posted: 17 Jun 2008 16:06
by Rblackadar
Yeah they're all pretty gross except for that last one.

Posted: 17 Jun 2008 16:36
by Mowog73
When we bought my son's TR7 resto project, there was a wing in the car. He originally thought it would be cool to put it on until I refered to it as a spoiler. He then smartened up (I marked it on the calendar, first time this year) and decided it really was a spoiler.

I do admit though cake's car looks quite nice.

Posted: 17 Jun 2008 17:11
by 300bhpton
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Mowog73</i>

When we bought my son's TR7 resto project, there was a wing in the car. He originally thought it would be cool to put it on until I refered to it as a spoiler. He then smartened up (I marked it on the calendar, first time this year) and decided it really was a spoiler.

I do admit though cake's car looks quite nice.
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I admit Demon Tweeks list it as a spoiler, however I pretty sure it's a wing.

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Spoilers
Spoilers are used primarily on sedan-type race cars. They act like barriers to air flow, in order to build up higher air pressure in front of the spoiler. This is useful, because as mentioned previously, a sedan car tends to become "Light" in the rear end as the low pressure area above the trunk lifts the rear end of the car.

Front air dams are also a form of spoiler, only their purpose is to restrict the air flow from going under the car.



Wings
Probably the most popular form of aerodynamic aid is the wing. Wings perform very efficiently, generating lots of down force for a small penalty in drag. Spoiler are not nearly as efficient, but because of their practicality and simplicity, spoilers are used a lot on sedans.

The wing works by differentiating pressure on the top and bottom surface of the wing. As mentioned previously, the higher the speed of a given volume of air, the lower the pressure of that air, and vice-versa. What a wing does is make the air passing under it travel a larger distance than the air passing over it (in race car applications). Because air molecules approaching the leading edge of the wing are forced to separate, some going over the top of the wing, and some going under the bottom, they are forced to travel differing distances in order to "Meet up" again at the trailing edge of the wing. This is part of Bernoulli's theory.

What happens is that the lower pressure area under the wing allows the higher pressure area above the wing to "push" down on the wing, and hence the car it's mounted to.

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Posted: 17 Jun 2008 20:11
by jclay (RIP 2018)
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Posted: 17 Jun 2008 21:24
by omichaelshar
a true "spoiler" can look ugly as sin
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Posted: 18 Jun 2008 07:25
by 300bhpton
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a true "spoiler" can look ugly as sin
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I guess it's personal. I mean does this really look all that different?

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Or is it more the fact that it is just unusual to see a TR7 with a wing, so it is then met with dislike?

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Posted: 26 Oct 2008 22:54
by PeterTR7V8
My be-winged FHC is due for it's respray in November so this is when I have to decide whether to keep the MR2 wing it currently has.

I've decided to ditch the wing & go bare bootlid, however, I was reading in my TR7 The Untold Story book that when Group 44 wind-tunnelled the TR7 they found the air over the back was generating 700lbs of lift. I suspect that I don't need to worry about that on the open road but will it be an issue when I do my track day events?

Group 44 put the big spoiler on the back to fix this & the Lanoncha replica has the same kind of thing
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but none of the rally cars had any wing or spoiler arrangement. I'm wondering whether I should devise some kind of clip-on spoiler arrangement or maybe a separate spoilered boot lid just for race days that will add grip to the rear or will it really not make any difference?

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Posted: 27 Oct 2008 02:06
by tr8
Here is one...the car has a Chev 350 with about 500 HP.

Paul


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