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Re: DHC Free Road Tax 2021

Postby stevie_a » 11 May 2021 18:25

Got mine at the weekend

My name wrong and wrong vin number ..... :evil:
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Re: DHC Free Road Tax 2021

Postby saabfast » 11 May 2021 18:51

Have to admit I did not check those sort of things, just jumped in the car and drove it. I had better dig out the paperwork again and check.
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Re: DHC Free Road Tax 2021

Postby busheytrader » 11 May 2021 20:40

stevie_a wrote:Got mine at the weekend

My name wrong and wrong vin number ..... :evil:


Correct reg no?

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Re: DHC Free Road Tax 2021

Postby stevie_a » 12 May 2021 08:23

busheytrader wrote:
Correct reg no?



Yeah Correct reg
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Re: DHC Free Road Tax 2021

Postby busheytrader » 12 May 2021 12:16

V5 / log book fell through the letter box today after 7 weeks. Historic status, all other info good.

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Re: DHC Free Road Tax 2021

Postby saabfast » 12 May 2021 14:14

Just checked the V5 and it does all match the old one so no problem there. What did surprise me was that they sent a personal letter with the returned documents, I only expected a Compliments slip.

However, I do note that the engine No on the V5 does not match that on the Heritage Certificate.

V5 is CG19875HE
Heritage Cert is CG359039HE

Assuming they are right I presume this means the engine was swapped at some time for a much earlier one?
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Re: DHC Free Road Tax 2021

Postby seven » 12 May 2021 14:57

My V5c dropped through the letterbox this morning all good and correct..............But no returned Heritage Certificate though :cry: Maybe that will come at a later date :idea: :roll:
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Re: DHC Free Road Tax 2021

Postby saabfast » 12 May 2021 15:00

Yes, it does. I received the Heritage Certificate and other documents about a week after the V5. The letter accompanied the documents, I guess it takes time to type out the letters.
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Re: DHC Free Road Tax 2021

Postby moestr7v8 » 12 May 2021 20:41

On my Heritage Certificate that I have recently received the engine number is obviously the original 2 litre engine number, as the car was converted to V8 back in '94 will this stop the car being classed as historic therefore not eligible for free road tax, i am not bothered about the exemption as I will always have the car tested each year.
Just wondered about this anomaly as there seems to be a lot of grey issues.
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Re: DHC Free Road Tax 2021

Postby stevie_a » 12 May 2021 20:56

"Vehicles that do not need an MOT
You do not need to get an MOT if:

the vehicle was built or first registered more than 40 years ago
no ‘substantial changes’ have been made to the vehicle in the last 30 years, for example replacing the chassis, body, axles or engine to change the way the vehicle works"
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Re: DHC Free Road Tax 2021

Postby moestr7v8 » 12 May 2021 23:22

Cheers for the info Stevie, as there seems to be no clear cut info on the road fund issue
if the engine and suspension has been changed even though the car is over 40 years of age
I was unsure if the car would be RFL free, as far as the mot is concerned it will be tested every year regardless.
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Re: DHC Free Road Tax 2021

Postby saabfast » 13 May 2021 09:28

saabfast wrote:Just checked the V5 and it does all match the old one so no problem there. What did surprise me was that they sent a personal letter with the returned documents, I only expected a Compliments slip.

However, I do note that the engine No on the V5 does not match that on the Heritage Certificate.

V5 is CG19875HE
Heritage Cert is CG359039HE

Assuming they are right I presume this means the engine was swapped at some time for a much earlier one?


With regard to my engine, CKS has come back on FB and said that the engine is out of a 1978 Canley car but I have no idea when it might have been changed. When I bought it 15 years ago nothing was mentioned so I assume it was long before that with a previous owner.

The changing of engines in these seems to be a bit of a grey area. Changing to a 'Rover' V8 generally seems to get away with it as they did produce the TR8 with a form of that engine so it is not a 'substantial change' to the original production cars.
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Re: DHC Free Road Tax 2021

Postby busheytrader » 13 May 2021 10:16

My V5 has had the V8 engine no. and displacement of 3528cc on it since conversion.

As far as the MOT exemption is concerned...... https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... pdf#page=2

1) The V8 engine has been in my car for over 30 years. Tick

2) The V8 engine was a type of change made when the vehicle was in production or in general use (within 10 years of the end of production) Tick

3) The car has not been substantially changed in the last 30 years. Tick

4) The Historic vehicle MOT exemption is a self declaration. Tick

On the basis of points 2 & 4, a TR7V8 qualifies for MOT exemption.

However, I will regularly put the V8 Wedge through a garage safety check / MOT. It’s too powerful not too, purely for the brake check alone.

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Re: DHC Free Road Tax 2021

Postby seven » 13 May 2021 14:52

saabfast wrote:Yes, it does. I received the Heritage Certificate and other documents about a week after the V5. The letter accompanied the documents, I guess it takes time to type out the letters.



Just as informed, in through my letter box the Heritage Certificate drops with accompanying letter :mrgreen:
Triumph TR7 DHC '81
Triumph 2.5 Estate '73
Triumph 2.5PI Saloon '69
Triumph Herald 12/50 '65
Mercedes SLK250 '14
Mercedes SL55 AMG '02
Mercedes E320 '05
Mitsubishi Canter '01
Rolls Royce Silver Shadow '76
Volvo 262c '78
Fiat Ducato Motorhome '03
Kawasaki GPZ '93
Kawasaki GPZ '92
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Re: DHC Free Road Tax 2021

Postby irco » 04 Oct 2021 22:57

Bit late to the party. However I bought my latest TR7 V8 Convertible 8 weeks ago, it was registered June 81. Had to pay £280 VED. Invested in heritage certificate, showed build date as January 1980. Photo copied it & sent to DVLA with V5, & covering letter requesting change to historic class. 4 weeks later got new V5 with appropriate changes & following day a cheque for£233.33. All sorted & as V8 was fitted over 30 years ago it's MOT exempt as well. Have majority of MOT certificates & 1986 one shows engine as 3528cc. So all good :D
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