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Dolomite sprint

Posted: 30 Apr 2010 22:42
by nick
I have been searching for a Dolomite sprint head on the web and came up empty. Is there any availability in the UK or anywhere else?

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nick
'79 TR7

Posted: 30 Apr 2010 23:10
by V8Wedgehead
Rimmer Bros has the full conversion and possibly S&S too in the UK.

Michael
1980 TR8 FHCs; Rally Conversion #0020 & Stock #0058
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"If it is broken then fix it....if it is not then make it faster!"

Posted: 30 Apr 2010 23:52
by PeterTR7V8
Is it the same as a TR7 Sprint head?

Mac has one for sale. Check the following links:

http://www.forum.triumphtr7.com/topic.a ... C_ID=12146

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... :MESELX:IT

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Posted: 01 May 2010 03:58
by Bobbieslandy
Yes, the dolomite sprint head and TR7 sprint head are the same apart from a cast rear cover. Isn't someone on here selling the whole lot on eBay right this minute?

Is this head to replace one on a sprint engine or are you planning to convert an 8v TR7 engine to 16V sprint power?

Rob.

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Posted: 01 May 2010 19:00
by nick
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Bobbieslandy</i>

Yes, the dolomite sprint head and TR7 sprint head are the same apart from a cast rear cover. Isn't someone on here selling the whole lot on eBay right this minute?

Is this head to replace one on a sprint engine or are you planning to convert an 8v TR7 engine to 16V sprint power?

Rob.

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I would be looking to convert.

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nick
'79 TR7

Posted: 01 May 2010 19:51
by V8Wedgehead
I hate to say it but when you get done with all the work and expenses for the conversion....and this is thru experience the better way to go is converting your TR7 to TR8 specifications. You dont need as much as you think.

Michael
1980 TR8 FHCs; Rally Conversion #0020 & Stock #0058
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"If it is broken then fix it....if it is not then make it faster!"

Posted: 01 May 2010 20:38
by Bobbieslandy
There is more than just putting a sprint head on an 8V to complete the conversion. i'm finding out the hard way about converting my 7 to sprint power, and i bought the whole engine. Well 2 of them actually! have a read of my thread on the sprint forum.

The reason for my conversion to sprint power was its rarety really, don't get me wrong, there's nothing better sounding than a V8 but i like something a bit more different, something to shut up the know it all when he asks if it's still got the standard 2 litre or have i just stuck a V8 in it. To be honest, looking back at the amount of money i've piled into this car i think i'd of bought one of the many Lexus LS400s on ebay for £700 and gone about shoving that in instead. Hindsight is a wonderful thing!

The inlet and exhaust manifolds are different, the carb linkages and needles are different, you need the cast alloy end plate, the chain is duplex on the sprint engine so you'll need the relevant sprockets, tensioner and runners (although i think the tensioner and runners may be the same, you'll need to change them if they're worn), the pistons are different (and very, very expensive) and the sprint crank is also different, it's cross drilled to cope with the stresses the power hike will put on it. On the same note, your original one will have to be mint or the bottom end won't last very long at all! the sprint engine in TR7 form can potentially put out 150bhp, 50% increase on the standard 8V so there's the usual brake upgrades, suspension upgrades to fork out for unless you've already done that.

I think i've listed all the differences, i'm sure someone will add to them!

If only i could turn the clock back!

Rob.

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Posted: 01 May 2010 20:48
by Beans
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by V8Wedgehead</i>

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II hate to say [:D] but I like the revy nature of the Sprint engine.
And a properly tuned Sprint will give any V8 a pretty decent run for its money on the twisty bits ...

And most important for me, the Sprint is a real Triumph engine [8D]

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Posted: 01 May 2010 22:01
by V8Wedgehead
I had an Ex-John Buffum SCCA pro rally TR7 Sprint motor from Leyland ST/Don Moore with twim dcoe webers, ungodly compression and radical cam. Yes the rpms were awesome and it would bury the tach every shift and still pull past the end of the gauge! Below 2500 rpms is a dog! This was the extreme of this dolomite engine. From what I have heard and read about the 60+/- sprints that were produced they are very nice to drive and with the SUs excellent and dependable. The discussion about timing chains, front covers, rear covers, exhaust manifolds, intakes, carbs, crank and those domed pistons with the valve reliefs all add up to alot of money. Now I will say the dolomite conversion I had was 220 horse and would smack around a stock TR8 but the 3.90 gears I had it was not a top ender. Still if I had the parts and wanted a project yeah I would build one but the feel of the rover v8 and the cost its sways almost 99% of people to go the way of the 8.

Michael
1980 TR8 FHCs; Rally Conversion #0020 & Stock #0058
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"If it is broken then fix it....if it is not then make it faster!"

Posted: 01 May 2010 22:16
by Chris Turner
I have a 3.45 axle on my genuine TR7 Sprint, makes it a bit slower off the mark but an excellent cruiser. The engine is on standard SUs but blueprinted.

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Posted: 01 May 2010 22:44
by V8Wedgehead
Chris I was waiting for you to jump in this thread!

Michael
1980 TR8 FHCs; Rally Conversion #0020 & Stock #0058
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"If it is broken then fix it....if it is not then make it faster!"

Posted: 01 May 2010 22:55
by Beans
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I am one of those obstinate 1% who stick to the Sprint [:D]

I used to have a 3.45 diff in my Sprint and it indeed made for a very good alround cruiser.
But it was to slow, that's why I swapped it for a 3:90.
Use the 3.45 in my DHC now, makes it a perfect GT car [;)]

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Posted: 01 May 2010 23:53
by V8Wedgehead
Beans your also the guy who went from Borduex (spelling is going to be wrong) red and went to Triton Green with much approval [}:)]

Michael
1980 TR8 FHCs; Rally Conversion #0020 & Stock #0058
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"If it is broken then fix it....if it is not then make it faster!"

Posted: 02 May 2010 01:39
by Spectatohead
Now if you were really crazy you could do the Stag V8 in a wedge. They certainly do sound nicer than the RV8. Something about the overhead cam or something. A nicely tuned Stag ends up sounding somewhat Italian. The RV8 sounds American, especially when running through glass-packs like mine.

Jim Clark
'80 TR8
'97 Maxima 5spd
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Posted: 02 May 2010 02:03
by FI Spyder
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Spectatohead</i>

A nicely tuned Stag ends up sounding somewhat Italian.
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I wonder if the Stag crank is in plane like many Italian V-8's. You take two four cylinder engines and combine them and you get an in plane V-8. No heavy counter balancing needed, fast acceleration unlike American V-8's that are cross plane and require heavy counter balancing which makes them slower reving like the Rover (Buick) V-8.
You don't get something for nothing. The American V-8's are smoother thoughout the rev range whereas in plane V-8's have vibration at certain RPM's more noticable the bigger the displacement. If you recall it was mentioned when F1 went from V-12 to V-10 engines at a certain RPM and then again when they went to V-8 engines at a different RPM. The American cross plane cranks do give a unique burble at idle. It's different strokes (no pun intended) for different folks.


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