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Strange anonymous brackets...

Posted: 03 Mar 2010 18:48
by Odd
Friends,
I'm trying to find the part numbers for the two sheet metal brackets sitting high up in the strut towers (see picture) - but for some reason they aren't drawn in the parts catalogue drawing. So, what's up with this? Are there (rust prone!) body parts that aren't given individual part numbers? Help! I need to change these out in dads car, or it <u>will</u> fail a MOT sometime in the future - when the inspector sees this and reacts upon it...
/Odd

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Posted: 03 Mar 2010 20:31
by Beans
They are part of the outer wheel arches (WKC2448/2449) and are not supplied separately.
Their only use as far as I know is to keep the arches in place during the welding.
The brackets themselves are not structural, the surrounding metal is though.

... and dirt has a tendency to collect on top of these brackets with know result ...

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Posted: 04 Mar 2010 06:45
by Odd
So, I take it your recommendation is to simply take them off of the car?
I'm most tempted to do just that since they are the most effective dirt traps I've found anywhere in the car...

Posted: 04 Mar 2010 11:46
by Beans
I didn't recommend, just a statement from someone who I presumed should know.
I might be wrong there. Luckily I'll never do recommendations just on a picture, unless very clear [B)]

As I am ill at home and in bed at the moment, I had some time to browse through the 1000+ pictures I took during the restoration of the DHC so far.
I was in the presumption that these brackets were only bolted in place but they are also welded to the turrets.
So that leads me to the conclusion that they are slightly more than just for fitment of the outer arches ...

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In your case it looks like the suspension turret, and the seam between turret and inner wing,
is also corroded (also a lot of under seal where water can collect ...).
Usually corrosion starts on top of these brackets and expands from there.
Nevertheless I wouldn’t worry about the brackets too much,
just make sure the turrets, and their connection to the inner wings, are sound.
And these brackets shouldn’t be too difficult to make from some 2 mm sheet steel

B.t.w. the brackets are bolted to the turrets with 4 M6 bolts each side and one weld through the hole in between. But I have seen cars that had only half of the bolts fitted due to bad alignment of the holes.

If in doubt, fit a strut brace [:D]

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Posted: 04 Mar 2010 17:07
by FI Spyder
Yeah... perfect dirt/water traps or rust makers and structural is minimal and surely used for ease of manufacture. But the turret is major stress point and I would be loath to remove it without overcompensating with a strut brace like Beans said. Better safe than sorry.



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Posted: 04 Mar 2010 17:45
by nervousnewowner
beans, get well soon mate...[;)]

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Posted: 04 Mar 2010 19:25
by Beans
Thx.
Lckily just a heavy cold/light infection in the forehead
But a very persistent one ...


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