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Part no.s and prices

Postby nofinchance » 31 Dec 2009 09:58

I have been on the 'tinternet shopping for bits.All the usual suspects have been tried paddocks,robsport,rimmers etc and two things have struck me.
1.Why are most of the part dealer websites so hard to use! I had to download a pdf file just to see what Paddocks stock.Then search like Indiana Jones for the holy grail on another just for a part no.
2.This leads me onto my second rant[:D].Every different parts supplier uses the same part numbers so are these old BL codes? Also if all these parts are made by one supplier as I doubt each company makes the bits why is it that the price diffence is ££££s between them.Of course there is VAT and carridge but we are talking 10's of pounds price difference for the same part.Market forces aside I smell a rat here[:I]


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Postby TR Tony » 31 Dec 2009 12:26

All the suppliers do indeed seem to use the original BL part numbers, which I think is a good thing to make sure we get the right part! Often remanufactured or non original parts will have a prefix or suffix to the part number to indicate the fact. Get yourself a BL parts catalogue, it is invaluable for reference.

Supplier websites vary hugely in their complexity (& hence the cost to the supplier in creating & running the site). Trouble is there are literally thousands of parts making up our cars so listing everything is a tall order - not to mention keeping that up to date. I often find that a phone call quoting the part number is a quicker way to find what you want than trawling through large PDF lists. And sometimes the part just isn't on the list - for example Paddocks list for the TR7 is pretty basic but it is well known that they have lots of parts, some quite hard to find. And Fitchetts dont seem to have a website at all but we all know how much stuff they have!

And costs? I think that to some extent we are at the mercy of a near monopoly situation with many of the spares we need, as there is a small number of suppliers who are all going to be aware of what each other is charging for a part. Further, we know that some of the big stock holders often supply parts to the smaller guys, so there is no way that the smaller supplier can undercut on price.

And then of course we are a small market - I doubt there is the volume of trade to allow for much competition on prices. With a slowly dwindling number of 7s & 8s on the road, all the parts suppliers are looking to diversify by supplying parts for other Triumph models, or even other makes altogether. But they have a business to run, & make a living from.

So, get your parts book, make your list of wants/needs, & carry it round all the shows & autojumbles. It is surprising what you can find sometimes!



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Postby Urchin » 31 Dec 2009 13:31

It may be frustrating but at least you have more parts suppliers to choose from than we do in the US. And they seem to have a greater supply for parts, too.

It's odd because far more TR-7's and most of the TR-8's wound up in the US.

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Postby FI Spyder » 31 Dec 2009 18:22

If you go to places like British Parts Northwest (who use none BL parts numbers) you often will see the same parts with different prices. The cheaper is off shore (read India, China) and the more expensive brand name like TRW etc. Always a better idea to spend the extra few bucks for the brand name. False economy to not.


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Postby nofinchance » 03 Jan 2010 15:20

Yea you guys are correct.I have said this before but one supplier in particular has a don't care attitude.It stands to reason some made in korea cheap part is gonna be kack but my confusion is some parts are exactly the same even down to the packing but are almost half the price from a smaller guy.I don't mind paying for parts in fact opening a box of new goodies is almost better than sex[;)].I just can't understand the vast price diffences for the exact same bits.Still if we shop around it's the expensive guys loss[:)]

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Postby zoe » 03 Jan 2010 15:49

Ive ordered most of my stuff from S&S Preperation, and theyve been realy helpful , especailly as most of the time i havnt got a clue what im realy after !! Zoe

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Postby tr7inc » 03 Jan 2010 15:58

Hi Steph, still working away hard on youre 7, cant wait to see it when its finished, when do you hope to have it on the road?

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Postby nofinchance » 03 Jan 2010 16:55

Hey steve.car has been MOT and Taxed since may 09.In between.....shall we say due to circumstances beyond my control I have done about 100 miles in it since then.I feel like jimmy saville is my passenger except instead of 'clunck klick every trip' it's more like 'klunk bang problems every trip!'.So I like to think of the car as a rolling resto so it's on the road kinda[:I] .Does on the road outside my house count[?].I don't know if it will ever be finished I am getting there slowly.It's a case of sorting the last 20 yrs of neglect and bodges at the moment.I have got to wondering how much would it cost to have the inventer of 'scotch blocks' killed,or at least torch his factory[:D]

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Postby nofinchance » 03 Jan 2010 16:59

[quote]<i>Originally posted by zoe</i>

Ive ordered most of my stuff from S&S Preperation,
It's a couple of brothers who trade with poor customer service I was thinking of.Hope to see you on the 15th.
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Postby tr7inc » 03 Jan 2010 18:06

Hi Steph, the bodges etc is what ive been working on these past year or so, like you im getting there slowly i just keep saying to myself one day i will reach the summit [:D] keep smiling

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Postby Dave Dyer » 03 Jan 2010 19:55

Hi Steph,

Theres a company near you (www.autosuppliers.co.uk in Kidderminster) who supply a lot of automotive parts, including loads for the TR7! But ONLY to the Trade, so they probably supply bits to all the know TR7 spares specialists. Who then as you say charge different prices!

I did email and ask if they would sell bits if I picked them up and payed cash, but I had no reply!!!

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Postby nofinchance » 09 Jan 2010 15:35

Wouldn't hurt them to supply direct a sale is a sale.That is my gripe and the point of the thread how can one shop the sell the exact same bit for not a quid or two difference but in some cases over £20.Just doesn't make sense.We all learn who the good guys are and shop there in the end.

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Postby Dave Dyer » 09 Jan 2010 20:34

I Totally agree with you.....recently on Ebay there was a 'deal of the day' selling an external hard drive for a PC cheaply, they sold 3000 in one day, they made a smaller profit on each one, but over all they would have done well!!! So the same would go for TR7 suppliers, but certain ones charge more than others, Maybe they don't want to sell the spares and want to keep them for them selves!!!!!! Anyway, I have noticed that as Rimmers sell more of an item, they actually put the price UP.... I can't understand it, they need us, if we didn't buy the spares they would go out of business!!

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Postby nofinchance » 10 Jan 2010 09:08

I Want to make it clear I am not complaining about paying for parts.If something is £100 and I need one or my car won't go then that is the price.I have had a little experience in marketing and one theory in particular seems to fit this parts pricing policy.it is this theroy that makes me feel some suppliers are ripping us off.It goes like this you have a prouduct you wanna sell so you do a bit of market research asking people what they would pay for the item.Not what it's worth materials + prouduction cost + packing and shipping but what they would PAY.It follows that if a prouduct is too cheap it will affect sales.Say a part costs 50p to prouduce you could sell it for £1 and be ok.However 85% of people will think it's crap as it's too cheap to be true so will buy a £2.99 part thinking it's better.Now the parts suppliers have us in a strangle hold as they market to us saying "you love your car don't you? don't buy rubbish spares" and "it's a classic parts are rare".They are selling us pattern parts from one or two manufacturers often in the same packing but one will play on your love and classic rare thoughts so add £££'s.When we get to the stage with our 7s that we have to scour autojumbles for rusted up bits that are still better than ours then parts are rare and premium price.Until then shop around, the best advice I got on here was use the flashey brochure to find what you want then as the fat guy on the tv add sings "GO COMPARE"[:D]

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