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Front Springs

Posted: 16 Dec 2009 14:02
by cozyheatdave
I have three sets of front springs; each from a different car.
In one picture you can see a rear spring on the far right. But the three springs are very different.
When I got the car with the tallest one I was told it had uprated springs already. Another pair came from Jon (I don't remember which pair) and I think he got them from Johns Car Kit (V6)

The smallest pair seem real hard - and short.

What am I looking at? I'm not absolutely positive I have my facts straight, but I bet some of you can figure it out.

I am installing new SPAX shocks with a Buick V-6... I'm open to suggestions. I want good right but good handling also.


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Posted: 16 Dec 2009 14:10
by cozyheatdave
hmmm.... I don't have the photo thing working yet I guess

Posted: 16 Dec 2009 15:20
by jclay (RIP 2018)
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Posted: 16 Dec 2009 15:34
by V8Wedgehead
Last picture from left to rightand I am guessing here: Front srping (Stock), Front spring (Upgraded), Rear Spring (Stock), Rear Spring (Upgraded). The front springs at the tapered end do not overlap like on the rears.

Michael
1980 TR8 FHCs; Rally Conversion #0020 & Stock #0058
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If it is broken then fix it....if it is not then make it faster!"

Posted: 16 Dec 2009 15:54
by cozyheatdave
Thanks for the help with the pictures.
The one on the far right, the rear spring, has diameter (the bottom in the picture) about an inch larger than the other springs.

Posted: 16 Dec 2009 19:38
by cozyheatdave
I just sent the longest one to the sandblaster, but for reference sake, the middle spring is 10-3/4" long and the short one is 9". I didn't measure the rear spring.

Posted: 20 Dec 2009 19:55
by cozyheatdave
I seem to be the sole contributor to this thread, but I'll keep it going anyway. [:)]
The tallest spring, on the left, is 13-1/2".
I believe this is an uprated spring, the second is stock and the third - and this is a wild guess, but uprated and lowered.

Any other ideas? I thought you guys would have the answers to this simple question [8D][8D][8D]

Posted: 20 Dec 2009 19:59
by Beans
Any coloured markings on them?
these are applied to identify the springs rate ...

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Posted: 20 Dec 2009 21:25
by cozyheatdave
No, I don't see any markings.
I used a very scientific method of measuring the spring rate… I jumped on them.
The long set and the medium set seemed to jump about the same. The short set seemed very hard.
I think for a 225# man that’s rather scientific, don’t you think?
[:D]


<i>P.S. Michael, in no way did I mean to imply that your response wasn’t sufficient…thanks for your input and others. It is too easy for me, in this type of communication, to sound unappreciative. I certainly appreciate anyone’s input.</i>

Posted: 20 Dec 2009 21:53
by Beans
Sorry for being a non-english-speaking-Johnny-Foreigner ... but what is a 225# man [:p]

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<font color="blue"><i>1980 TR7 DHC (my first car, currently being restored)
1981 TR7 FHC Sprint (better known as 't Kreng)</font id="blue">
<b>http://tr7beans.blogspot.com/</b></i></center>

Posted: 20 Dec 2009 23:10
by Rich in Vancouver
About 102.25kg![:D]


PS: Beans I love that Triton Green DHC of yours
Makes me Green [:p] with envy!

1975 TR7 ACL764U
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Posted: 21 Dec 2009 01:16
by FI Spyder
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by cozyheatdave</i>


The tallest spring, on the left, is 13-1/2".
I believe this is an uprated spring, the second is stock and the third - and this is a wild guess, but uprated and lowered.
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Here's my logic. If the tall spring on the left was uprated your TR would be sitting up as if it were a 4x4. Therefore as the first and second feel about the same I would say the left on is standard, the second one is stanard collapsed. (When I replaced my springs with standard the new won was noticably taller than the old stock one I took off.) The third one is uprated. The uprated springs are shorter than standard or the car would be sitting up in the air. The only spring not mentioned is variable rate (the rallye cars had them). I'm not sure if they are available or would have to be custom made or if the circumference is variable to give the variable rate. Regardless, I'm sure they are so rare you wouldn't likely stumble into them. Sure wouldn't mind a set though.


TR7 Spider - 1978 Spifire - 1976 Spitfire - 1988 Tercel 4X4 - Kali on Integra - 1991 Integra
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Posted: 21 Dec 2009 03:17
by Cobber
<font size="2"><font face="Comic Sans MS">A coil spring is a helically wound torsion bar.
When the coil spring is compressed or stretched it actually twists the bar of steel its made from, that's how you get the bounce.
So like a torsion bar, using bars of equal diameter and made of the same material, the shorter the length of the bar of the stiffer it will be.</font id="Comic Sans MS"></font id="size2">

80'Triumph TR7, , 73'Land Rover (Ford 351. V8),
'89 Ford Fairlane
85'Alfa 90, 69'Ford F250.
76' Ford F100

Posted: 22 Dec 2009 18:00
by cozyheatdave
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... MEWAX%3AIT

How do these fit your description?
These are 13-1/2" and he says the are "Uprated"

Thanks for all the input - seems I have so much to learn.