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Blower problem

Posted: 31 Oct 2009 18:49
by john
My blower is only working in postion 3 i have swapped the leads round but only that lead will work on any of the sockets ie 1 & 2 whereas the other leads will no work in the other positions

any idea's

new motor !!!!!

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John

Posted: 01 Nov 2009 00:28
by FI Spyder
No. The three positions introduce different resistances into the circuit to vary motor speed. Fault likely lies in the 2 failing switch contacts. If the motor works at one speed it will work on the other if they are correct.


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Posted: 01 Nov 2009 09:46
by Beans
Or it might be that the two resistor coils are short-circuiting.
They are situated at the top of the ventilator housing ...

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... with the two coils inside, hanging in the fresh-air-stream.

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Posted: 01 Nov 2009 09:58
by busheytrader
Hi John, it might be corroded connectors providing too much resistance for the lower speeds to operate. I had the same problem and did these things which worked for me. I checked them again when rebuilding my heater last week.

1 Connections to motor on the left hand side of the heater box. Stick your hand up there and you'll find the green or green / black wires (I think) that connect to the motor. You can't see them unless the dash is removed but you can run your hand up the cables from the speed controller to find it.....Move the female connectors up and down on the male tab to clean up the connection. Note - the heater box is upside down in this pic

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2 Remove the fake speaker panel from the top of the dash to find all the connector blocks. One of the smaller ones and most likely at the top left is the heater block. Green / green black wires again I think. Pull apart and clean / check for corrosion and correct position of pins / tubes in the blocks. Don't pull the wires too hard as there isn't much slack as the motor resistor panel is very close by at the top of the heater. Damage this and the dash has to come out..........

One of the s/hand heater boxes I bought had fried 2 of its resistors on this panel. Hopefully this hasn't happened to yours. Easy to replace in the top of the heater box itself, the bare resistor wires are in the fresh air stream, but the dash has to come out.......

3 I don't know if this helps connectivity but if your heater levers have become sloppy they can be tightened up easily with a small hammer and dolly. Remove the dash cover from the heater lever section and just tap both ends of the shafts gently together and they will close up. This firms them up and restores the friction required to stop them free falling on their own.

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Hope this helps.


Adam



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Posted: 01 Nov 2009 10:06
by john
fantastic

you've gotta just love this forum thanks everyone


sorted

[8 whole cylinders worth of punch to ram the world through the windshield and out the rear view mirror. Car & Driver]
1981 Grinnall TR7 v8
1981 Black FHC
1979 & 1980 Black Premium FHC(laid to rest) Sorry :-(
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John

Posted: 01 Nov 2009 10:10
by busheytrader
John,

"Sorted"

Does that means you fixed it already?

Posted: 03 Nov 2009 09:17
by john
Yep fixed already

from the posts it gave me a clear set of prcedures to follow so i simply took the radio out and proceeded to check and clean every connection.

and viola it worked (for Now) as i still think there is an underlying problem here, i know for sure that the fans okie dokie and the switch is good what i'm not convinced on is the resistance coils, although they looked ok if the problem returns i might swapp these over with a new set

but for now i'm sorted.

as for the speed that i achieved this i was reading your last post whilst in the process of going through the items as i had the laptop on within the garage [:D]

[8 whole cylinders worth of punch to ram the world through the windshield and out the rear view mirror. Car & Driver]
1981 Grinnall TR7 v8
1981 Black FHC
1979 & 1980 Black Premium FHC(laid to rest) Sorry :-(
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John

Posted: 04 Nov 2009 08:27
by bmcecosse
Does anyone know the value and rating of the resistors to get replacements?

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Posted: 05 Nov 2009 07:01
by busheytrader
I've never seen the ratings and they're not available separately. Basically there are two bare coils of resistance wire soldered to a small circuit board. This is located at the top of the heater box with the bare coils in the air stream, as per Beans's photo. I presume there's no 3rd coil as no resistance is needed for the top speed.

The circuit board and wiring harnesses are listed as available by Rimmers et al etc http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-AAP281

Adam

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