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Postby nofinchance » 26 Jun 2009 17:37

I am having trouble getting some tyres for my TR7 BL alloy wheels.The size is 185/70 r13 and every tyre depot in my phone book says they are not available! One independant tyre store says they can order them in but it will take a week.The cost is £140 for four fitted an balenced so not too bad but they are some made in ukraine brand.Anyone reccomend a brand of tyre or a stockist in the w.mids?

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Postby Red » 26 Jun 2009 17:57

Try http://www.blackcircles.com - they have Falkens (among others) for £41 fitted, they seem to get a good rating.

I've used blackcircles before, it's a pretty good service. You order the tyres from them, then select from a list of people that will fit them. Easy!




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Postby TR7Aaron » 26 Jun 2009 19:26

I had good luck with www.tires-easy.com

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Postby busheytrader » 26 Jun 2009 19:37

13" tyres are becoming increasingly harder to find.

By the time your new tyres wear out, you'll have been able to source some MGF 15 - 16" replacements on ebay complete with tyres at a reasonable price. Car dismantlers are selling them on as the cars rust or wear out. Ours are one of the very few cars that they fit....

I'm also running Falkens at the moment and they're pretty good.


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Postby FI Spyder » 26 Jun 2009 20:06

If your local tire stores don't have the brands that fit you may have to order on line (from UK site) and get them installed locally. A friend ordered tires from tirerack.com (USA) and had them shipped to Kelowna (Canada) and still thought it was cheaper than dealing locally. Not an option for you (being overseas) but there should be something in UK. Kumho and Sumitomo still make them. There are probably local brands (to you). The Ukrainian manufacturing site would be an unknown and unless you can get independant reviews.

No problem getting 13" tires here in 'lil old Duncan so surprized you can't get them there what with all the little cars you get there that we never see over here.


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Postby Yoke » 27 Jun 2009 01:53

Well let me tell ya, they are getting hard to find in Calgary. 13's are going the way of the dodo. At least for now I'm sure they'll make a come back sooner or later.

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Postby Tack » 27 Jun 2009 04:04

For those of you in Canada; I ended up getting mine at Canadian Tire. Their imfamous "MotoMaster" all seasonals and they actually had them in stock, here in Kelowna B.C.

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Postby macutmore » 27 Jun 2009 08:24

I posted this in another section on tyres but will also duplicate it here.......Some of us may remember in the Eighties, and at the time there were only SR or HR rated tyres available. The five speed TR7 strictly had HR rated tyres fitted so as not to invalidate insurance policies, even though it may have been entirely possible to get a car through the MOT at the time with the much cheaper SR rated tyres fitted. Only the 4 speed TR7 had those. Strictly speaking putting anything less than HR rated tyres on a five speed TR7 would be illegal in the UK unless you could get away with it by telling your insurance company. In fact few tyre manufacturers now actually make 13 inch HR rated tyres. All seem to make T rated tyres though, and because of this I still see many five speed TR7’s with technically illegal T rated tyres fitted!!

There are however at least half a dozen tyre manufacturers that still produce HR rated 185 70 13 tyres suitable for the original TR7 although none of the well known makes like Good Year or Michelin still produce them. Most seem to be of Japanese, Chinese or Korean origin. I was very reluctant to fit Japanese tyres on a Classic British Sports Car. I managed to maintain pedigree by fitting new tyres from the AMERICAN manufacturer Maxxis and settled for Maxxis MA-701 http://www.maxxis.co.uk/catalog/tyredet ... eSupport=1 I got these from the selection at www.mytyres.co.uk

The rating of the tyre is not just speed it is the load rating as well, generally a higher speed rated tyre will carry load easier, going down a little in rating affects the cars stability more than its speed ability. It is not advisable for anyone to fit tyres of a lower speed rating. Original TR7’s were OEM fitted usually with Good Year G800S 185/70 HR 13 tyres. These had a load rating of 84 and treadwear rating of 130, temperature rating A and traction A. My new Maxxis tyres by comparison have the same HR rating, but load factor of 86, and a much higher treadwear rating of 400.

The load rating expresses how vertical loads are transmitted to shape changes in the contact patch of the tyre. Fit a tyre with a heavier load rating and you will experience slightly larger but quicker steering (i.e. you need more steering input to generate the same amount of lateral force but transient phase goes a little quicker). The positive flip side is that you can throw about longitudinal load much more agressively before the tyre saturates with load, and get more turn-in/oversteer behaviour. Too high and the whole tyre ceases to perform, because the contact patch is not getting squished as much onto the road surface

Conversely, with a lighter load rated tyre on the steering input you require to go round a corner reduces, but the transient time increases and you seriously hamper any kind of dynamic steering ability in the car. Plus the ride goes soft and cornering may be unstable because the sidewalls are too soft. Not a good combination.

A good site for information on tyres is http://www.pneus-online.co.uk/tyre-tech ... dvice.html There is also some useful background information on each manufacturer by brand name at http://www.pneus-online.co.uk/car-tyre/

In short, always stick to the manufacturer's original rated load - going slightly higher is ok, don't go low. Never compromise on speed rating. Remember that your tyres are simply the most important thing that you will ever fit to your car.

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Postby nofinchance » 28 Jun 2009 06:17

[:D]the joy of these cars is nothing is simple[:D].I kinda like originality so purchased a set of standard alloys and now the tyres are like rocking horse poo ! Thanks for all the info guys I will check out the links.It is an interesting fact that MGF alloys fit our cars.Given Rover groups tendency for multi fit over the range does anything else usefull from newer Rovers fit?

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Postby Cobber » 28 Jun 2009 08:12

<font size="2"><font face="Comic Sans MS">Here's a list of tyres in 13"
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Postby tr7inc » 28 Jun 2009 21:36

Steph, let us know how you get on, youre doing brill chuck, are you going to the Northampton billing next weekend? if so see you there, and tell us more about your 7, youre getting there keep going.

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Postby nofinchance » 28 Jun 2009 21:42

Steve, yep gonna try and make billing.meant to ask when I get there how do I find you guys? am I allowed nr the stand as I am not registerd as an exhibitor or is it the car park for me [:I].My car is almost ready.just got the wrong seats'grommit[:D]' as my tan makeover did not include them.I have found a guy who says he will sell me a set but he is a bit elusive .

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Postby birminghamtr7 » 28 Jun 2009 21:53

just noticed this, its a start


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TR7-TR8-SEAT-COVE ... 7C294%3A50

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Postby tr7inc » 29 Jun 2009 05:47

Hi Steph, om not sure myself what the parking situation is etc as ive never been, but im sure it will be striaght forward enough, what day are you hoping to go?
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Postby nofinchance » 29 Jun 2009 18:55

Steve, I was going on the saturday however this tyre thing is holding me up as the only shop who can get em and fit em won't have em till saturday!! so looking like sunday.I went to billing a few years back with my capri and they have club stands or its the general car pk I think.I was on the mkII register stand with my 3.0 s .The year I went they were running free trips to the vauxhall heritage museum at luton.quite fun

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