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Postby Underdog » 11 Jan 2010 18:59

I have a locking one from Rimmer and haven't had a problem with the lock sticking. Of course mine doesn't see everyday use and weather. My problem with it is the sealing or lack thereof. First track day with it I thought I had a terrible fuel leak or the carb was sloshing fuel. Turned out to be the lousy cap not sealed and the sloshing fuel leaking into the trunk.

I would certainly like to go back to the stock cap but no one seems to offer a repo replacement. I have no idea what I did with my stock one back in 1995.[:(] In the meantime, I found a plain, round chrome one that fits & seals but hardly looks like it belongs. I only put it on when I go to the track.

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Postby FI Spyder » 12 Jan 2010 01:54

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Underdog</i>

I would certainly like to go back to the stock cap but no one seems to offer a repo replacement. I have no idea what I did with my stock one back in 1995.
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They come up on eBay from time to time. Sometimes even an NOS one. Becareful where it's from though, US ones are different from UK ones. (Sealed and unsealed fuel systems.

I picked one up from eBay a while back. Just need to make new seals for it. Everybody should have a spare.




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Postby Underdog » 12 Jan 2010 16:44

Not sure I want one this bad.[?]
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Triumph- ... 5885609414

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Postby FI Spyder » 12 Jan 2010 17:52

That's close to what you have to pay. About $50 shipping included for a NOS one and about $35 including shipping for a good used one. Of course if you can find one being parted out locally then it's up to your negotiating skills.[:)]

Better than a rag sticking out of the filler hose or a locking gas cap from UK that emits fumes you can smell from the drivers seat on our sealed systems and lets water leak into the gas tank from lock.[:D]


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Postby Underdog » 12 Jan 2010 19:44

I suppose you are right and I'm being thrifty.[:I]

There was a post a while back with a neat aircraft syle billit alloy one. It cost about 200 bucks if I remember and would require a little work to install but was really trick. I know 200 bucks is even more than the 50 but then it wasn't a piece of plastic either.[;)]

I found the thread with the photo. http://www.forum.triumphtr7.com/topic.a ... uel,filler

However, I lost the website where I found the aircraft style here in NA. I'll have to Goggle again.
OK, I found it again. Newton Aero series made in UK. This seems to be the company homepage but there are distributors in the US.

http://archive.newton-equipment.com/Aer ... 400new.htm

Now one of these would be really cool!
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Postby FI Spyder » 13 Jan 2010 02:12

It does look cool but $200 cool? I guess it's all a case of prioities.


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Postby RJS » 18 Jan 2010 13:33

Being in a warm dry climate, I figured I would never have any problems with my locking gas cap.

Famous last words.

Yesterday I was driving the 8, and I already knew I was low on gas. It started sputtering, so I pulled into a gas station (great timing to have one so close). I worked on it for several minutes and could not get. A mechanic friend who was only a few blocks away came over and we eventually got it off.

I guess it is time to start looking for a non-locking gas cap for me.

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Postby FI Spyder » 18 Jan 2010 19:39

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Century Gothic, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Underdog</i>

I have a locking one from Rimmer and haven't had a problem with the lock sticking. Of course mine doesn't see everyday use and weather. My problem with it is the sealing or lack thereof. First track day with it I thought I had a terrible fuel leak or the carb was sloshing fuel. Turned out to be the lousy cap not sealed and the sloshing fuel leaking into the trunk.
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I'm sure that's the result of UK fuel caps having an unsealed fuel system. A friend got a locking cap and said he could smell fuel. Different caps for different fuel systems. As far as I know, no one makes a locking cap for N/A.


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Postby ColoradoTR8 » 15 Feb 2010 20:48

MOSS was selling a locking cap for the small cap cars. It actually takes a little mod to work correctly but it does work.

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Postby ClaytonsTR7 » 08 Mar 2010 12:53

Just a new guy here but wanted chime in on the part about guys ripping on the TR7. We have had our car only a short time and had the pleasure of being told 2 times what a pile of junk the car is.
I did have a guy pull off the road and drive over the car when I was bringing it home to ask about it and he just kept saying "man that is cool"
The reason we have a TR7 ( 2 actually) is because I have had muscle cars for over 30 years and while I love them its just not feasible for me to buy another one to work on with my son. I wanted to find something inexpensive for us to play with that was rear wheel drive that looks sporty.
The car we bought fits the bill perfectly. I sold a 4 speed set up out of one of my Firebirds for more than I paid for the 77 TR7 we just bought with only 44,000 miles on it. Its red with a 5 speed very clean body and over all seems very solid. A 1967-69 in the same shape would be 8X – 10X the price.
I say let them talk most of the guys ripping on the car really don’t know them and a lot of them are driving new cars and don’t even have a classic car.
Me… I will just smile and take it. If everyone though they were cool they would be too valuable to play with. Look what has happened to the muscle cars... the investors/ collectors/rich guys have ruined the hobby for the average Joes like me. Don’t get me wrong I will keep my 68 Firebird I bought in 1981 for 1800.00 but I am done buying muscle cars.
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Postby silverseven » 09 Mar 2010 00:43

couldn't agree more with you Steve, about getting a kid a tr7 as first car.

There somewhat slow, solid and safe when rust free, decent on fuel, and since they only have two seats, keeps the joy riders few and far between......when the time comes around, I might even consider getting a second one for my daughter [;)]

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Postby Bobbieslandy » 09 Mar 2010 15:19

First of all i'm going to apologise for the following rant!

Having a 40mph minimum (60 when i hit the brakes) head on with old solid Audi 100 whilst driving a new shape nissan micra i would go for the modern eurobox everytime. A car designed nearly 40 years ago may of been safe then, but trust me, a slow solid car will not fair well with todays higher speeds and modern cars. ok, the damage to our car looked severe, the sills had bent as had the roof, the drivers seat had collapsed, 3 of the 4 airbags went off, even the rear quarter had bent such was the way the energy had been transmitted through the car and not us. The Audi driver had cuts all over her face (head hit the windscreen quite hard, not sure how because i'm sure she was wearing a seatbelt) broken wrist and a broken ankle and was unconcious when i approached her. My wife and myself were slightly bruised and i lost my glasses when the airbag went off.

For new drivers it has to be a modern eurobox, i can see the thinking behind putting them in a old motor but with everyone else in more advanced cars speeding, cutting people up, braking sharply etc etc it's just madness. You'd get better economy from a fiesta, Micra or clio, better brakes, better comfort and more importantly they're so much safer. The more solid the car, the more your body takes the impact.

Sorry if this seems like sucking eggs to some of you but if i was in the TR7 that day i'd doubt i'd of walked away. Just a few things to think about. Having the acccident hasn't made me give up the TR7, i'm just so much more aware about how vulnerable i actually am. Even the micra i was driving weighed over 200Kgs more than my TR7 does!

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Postby PeterTR7V8 » 09 Mar 2010 19:31

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Stop using logic! It does my head in. [:D]

You try & explain this to a 4x4 driver & their reaction would no doubt be to put bull bars on to make their tank even more solid.

As far as giving old cars to young people when they start driving I think the key is to have them drive something they love so that in the absence of brains, experience or respect for life, they might just feel that their special car is worth preserving. If they love a Micra then I say let them crash!

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Postby Beans » 09 Mar 2010 21:07

Everybody should be forced to drive in a Triumph Herald, without
seatbelts and a big spike in the centre of the steering wheel [}:)]

That should at least improve driving skills [:p]

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Postby Bobbieslandy » 09 Mar 2010 23:43

I agree with the 4x4 comment! i am a Defender owner and used to have a bull bar, didn't feel it was any use around these parts! the difference between the TR and my defender is about 1000KGS, the solid bit works when the car weighs 2 ton as the car you hit is usually the crumple zone, not so good in a TR7. watch the youtube vid of a solid land rover discovery hitting a soft renault espace which incedentally also weighs around 2 tonnes these days.

The car that hit us was sliding sideways towards me, the front end was on my side of the road, the rear on the other side of the road and ditches with trees in either side of that typical "A" road. It was dark (28th dec 8pm) and because the Audi's lights were not facing me i had a split second to make a decision as i didn't know the car was still moving until i slammed into it. couldnt go left or right, just had to hit the brakes and slammed into the front off side wheel, not much give there!

Imagine a 17 year old in the same situation. modern eurobox and they walk away or a TR7 which was recommended by their parents..........

Now, if everybody drove a Herald with a spike then there'd be no accidents! because we're now bubble wrapped with airbags, pretensioners, EBD, ABS etc etc the sense of danger has been taken out of driving so the types of people who were driving recklessly 20 years ago are doing the same but 40mph quicker. My BMW will does not feel fast until at least 140MPH, and thats only when you pass another car. My Viva felt lethal at 60MPH.

Each to their own, but if it were my kids i'd be buying them the most boring, slowest, safest car on the road. when they're a bit older and tell me they want to Drive the TR7 i'll tell them to go and buy one. Being a good driver is one thing, controlling others around you is impossible! I'm not anti TR7 or anti classic car, i just believe that progress happens for a reason and we shouldnt' be encouraging people who are impressionable to drive them. IMHO!

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